21In his place shall arise a contemptible person to whom royal majesty has not been given. The Holy Bible, English Standard Version. And a mighty king shall stand up, that shall rule with great dominion, and do according to his will. There is an increasing focus in the chapter on the land of Palestine in general and specifically Jerusalem. In verse 16 the Beautiful Land refers to Judea and Jerusalem (cf. Crossway Bibles, a publishing ministry of Good News Publishers. 13For the king of the North will return and muster a multitude greater than the former, and shall certainly come at the end of some years with a great army and much equipment. Web11 And the king of the South shall be moved with rage, and go out and fight with him, with the king of the North, who shall muster a great multitude; but the multitude shall be given into the hand of his enemy. Where did the 10 Tribes go after Captivity. 22Armies shall be (AG)utterly swept away before him and broken, even the prince of the covenant. 46:7, 8; 51:42; Dan. (AX)He shall exalt himself and magnify himself above every god, (AY)and shall speak astonishing things against (AZ)the God of gods. 9Also the king of the North shall come to the kingdom of the king of the South, but shall return to his own land. Then shall stand up in his estate a raiser of taxes in the glory of the kingdom: but within few days he shall be destroyed, neither in anger, nor in battle. WebDaniel Chapter 11 1 Also I in the first year of Darius the Mede, even I, stood to confirm and to strengthen him. Web11 Then the king of the South will march out in a rage and fight against the king of the North, who will raise a large army, but it will be defeated. WebDaniel 11:40 KJV: And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him: and the king of the north shall come against him like a whirlwind, with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into the 2 And now will I shew thee the truth. Behold, there shall stand up yet Antiochus III now controlled all of Palestine, and placed the Jews under a harsh government, using the region as a staging ground to attack Egypt, stationing much of his army there. Conjunctive waw, Preposition-l | Noun - masculine singular construct, Verb - Hitpael - Imperfect - third person masculine plural, To unite, be joined, to tie a magic knot or spell, to charm, Conjunctive waw | Noun - feminine singular construct, Verb - Qal - Imperfect - third person feminine singular, Preposition-l | Verb - Qal - Infinitive construct, Evenness, prosperity, concord, straightness, rectitude, Conjunctive waw | Adverb - Negative particle, To inclose, to hold back, to maintain, rule, assemble, Conjunctive waw | Noun - feminine singular construct | third person masculine singular, Verb - Qal - Imperfect - third person masculine singular, Preposition-b, Article | Noun - common plural, Conjunctive waw | Verb - Nifal - Conjunctive imperfect - third person feminine singular, Conjunctive waw | Verb - Hifil - Participle - masculine plural construct | third person feminine singular, Conjunctive waw, Article | Verb - Qal - Participle - masculine singular construct | third person feminine singular, To bear young, to beget, medically, to act as midwife, to show lineage, Conjunctive waw | Verb - Hifil - Participle - masculine singular construct | third person feminine singular, To fasten upon, to seize, be strong, obstinate, to bind, restrain, conquer. 11.20 (M) He will establish himself in the Beautiful Land and will have the power to destroy it. However, the Greeks saw a chance to gain power. Required fields are marked *. For a period of fourteen years, there was peace between the Ptolemy and the Seleucids. Thus the prophetic picture now leaves the Persian Empire and focuses on Greece. 7:25; 2 Thess. Following the death of Sulla, Pompey was elected consul (70 B.C. And the king of the south shall be moved with choler, and shall come forth and fight with him, even with the king of the north: and he shall set forth a great multitude; but the multitude shall be given into his hand. there went out a decree from Caesar Augustus, that all the world should be taxed. 27And as for the two kings, their hearts shall be bent on doing evil. 35Some of the wise will stumble, so that they may be refined,(AM) purified and made spotless until the time of the end, for it will still come at the appointed time. Galatians: Freedom through Gods Grace (Wipf & Stock, 2019). 8He will also seize their gods,(G) their metal images and their valuable articles of silver and gold and carry them off to Egypt. 30Ships of the western coastlands(AD) will oppose him, and he will lose heart. 15 So the king of the north shall come, and cast up a mount, and take the most fenced cities: and the arms of the south shall not 38He shall honor the god of fortresses instead of these. By submitting your email address, you understand that you will receive email communications from Bible Gateway, a division of The Zondervan Corporation, 3900 Sparks Drive SE, Grand Rapids, MI 49546 USA, including commercial communications and messages from partners of Bible Gateway. WebAnd both these kings' hearts shall be to do mischief, and they shall speak lies at one table; but it shall not prosper: for yet the end shall be at the time appointed. My face will I turn also from them, and they shall pollute my secret place: for the robbers shall enter it and defile it. youtube.com/channel/UCThjjlEQTsrFb5GVGetBPjA?sub_confirmation=12. 10 However, the sons of the king of the north will assemble a mighty army that will advance like a flood and carry the battle as far as the enemy's fortress. (AK) 34When they fall, they will receive a little help, and many who are not sincere(AL) will join them. 27Both these kings hearts shall be bent on evil, and they shall speak lies at the same table; but it shall not prosper, for the end will still be at the (W)appointed time. And he shall come into countries and (BH)shall overflow and pass through. And after the league made with him he shall work deceitfully: for he shall come up, and shall become strong with a small people. Daniel 11.4 39He shall deal with the strongest fortresses with the help of a foreign god. Rome robbed its conquered territories. Behold, three more kings shall arise in Persia, and a fourth shall be far richer than all of them. 13For the king of the North will muster another army, larger than the first; and after several years, he will advance with a huge army fully equipped. The problem with the three more, then a fourth king is Persia had nine kings from Cyrus to Alexander. Click here for the audio of this presentation WebDaniel 11:15Authorized (King James) Version. Two sons of Antiochus II Callinicus (246-225) undertook to regain the lost territory of the king of the North and redeem the honor of their father. Despite all his victories Caesar had enemies. The king of the south's daughter will go to marry the king of the north. For all the saints. 33Those who are wise will instruct(AJ) many, though for a time they will fall by the sword or be burned or captured or plundered. However God wanted them out of Babylon. 6After some years, they will become allies. And in those times there shall many stand up against the king of the south ( Daniel 11:13-14): So the king of the north came back again, which was Antiochus Megas, known as Antiochus the Great. 13:9; Mal. He lead his armies against Egypt. He will attack the forces of the king of the North(F) and enter his fortress; he will fight against them and be victorious. Yet nothing was gained by the battle. First he was in a Triumvirate with Pompey and Crassus, but then after defeating Pompey, he made himself the supreme ruler of the Roman Empire. This city will play a huge role in the establishment of the Catholic Church later in history. Then shall he return into his land with great riches; and his heart shall be against the holy covenant; and he shall do exploits , and return to his own land. In a very short time space he established a one government rule. Nevertheless, there will be throughout the ages until the end of time a power rising from the south and opposing the northern power. Daniel 11.22 (Research information from DANIEL ELEVEN, Verse by Verse Written by Ulrike Unruh). WebVerse Daniel 11:6 After some years, the king of the south and the king of the north will agree to be friends. Nevertheless, there will be throughout the ages until the end of time a power rising from the south and opposing the northern power. (N) 17He will determine to come with the might of his entire kingdom and will make an alliance with the king of the South. By submitting your email address, you understand that you will receive email communications from Bible Gateway, a division of The Zondervan Corporation, 3900 Sparks Drive SE, Grand Rapids, MI 49546 USA, including commercial communications and messages from partners of Bible Gateway. His shadow fell over the known civilization of his time and is still influencing the world today. 28And he shall return to his land with great wealth, but his heart shall be set against the holy covenant. ), [See ver. Daniel 8:5-8 speaks of this he-goat coming from the west and tramping the ram which was Persia. Handed down. WebThe daughter of the king of the South will go to the king of the North to make an alliance, but she will not retain her power, and he and his power will not last. Messiah will be cut off. you only need to look at the world today to see that. But the text may mean these men responded to a vision at the time that encouraged them to join with Antiochus III against Ptolemy. Most people were still in Babylon; they were too comfortable in Babylon. Ptolemy I Soter (323-285) controlled Egypt, first as a satrap, but took the title king in 305. Their capital was set up in Alexandria. 10(BC)Many shall be purified, made white, and refined, (BD)but the wicked shall do wickedly; and none of the wicked shall understand, but (BE)the wise shall understand. Then I said, My lord, what shall be the end of these things?. In those days she will According to Daniel 11:40, the King of the North and the King of the South will team up in an effort to prevent the anti-Christ from taking Jerusalem, which as I said is the ultimate prize. 31And [n]forces shall be mustered by him, (Y)and they shall defile the sanctuary fortress; then they shall take away the daily sacrifices, and place there the abomination of desolation. WebDaniel 11:5 And the king of the south shall be strong, and one of his princes; and he shall be strong above him, and have dominion; his dominion shall be a great dominion. King of the south - Ptolemy Soter, who had Egypt, Palestine and part of Syria in the south, is the king of the south at this point of the prophecy. But since the USA and UK are NOT south of Palestine/Israel, the JWs seem to have a problem with geography. They feel most of the books were fulfilled by the time of the captivity of Jerusalem in 585 BC. 37He shall regard neither the [q]God of his fathers nor the desire of women, (AB)nor regard any god; for he shall exalt himself above them all. Your email address will not be published. Seleucus is the King of the North & Ptolemy, the King of the South. 8Although I heard, I did not understand. 1 and in the first year of Darius the Mede I stood to strengthen him and be his refuge.. However, the statue of Jupiter was seated on a throne in St. Peters Basilica in Rome and renamed St. Peter. Web11 And the king of the South shall be moved with rage, and go out and fight with him, with the king of the North, who shall muster a great multitude; but the multitude shall be given into the hand of his enemy. And many shall join themselves to them with flattery, 35and some of the wise shall stumble, so that they may be refined, (AS)purified, and (AT)made white, until (AU)the time of the end, (AV)for it still awaits the appointed time. This four-fold division of Alexanders kingdom is implied in Daniel 7:6 and 8:8. WebDaniel 11 1 I have been standing beside Michael to support and strengthen him since the first year of the reign of Darius the Mede.) 27The two kings, with their hearts bent on evil,(AA) will sit at the same table and lie(AB) to each other, but to no avail, because an end will still come at the appointed time. (D) It will not go to his descendants, nor will it have the power he exercised, because his empire will be uprooted(E) and given to others. And the king of the south shall wage war with an exceedingly great and mighty army, but he shall not stand, for plots shall be devised against him. 39Thus he shall act against the strongest fortresses with a foreign god, which he shall acknowledge, and advance its glory; and he shall cause them to rule over many, and divide the land for [r]gain. Though both the king of the North and the king of the South were spreading the Greek culture, they did not get along very well. 43He shall have power over the treasures of gold and silver, and over all the precious things of Egypt; also the Libyans and Ethiopians shall follow (AH)at his heels. 12 When he has taken away the multitude, his heart will be lifted up; and he will cast down tens of thousands, but he will not prevail. youtube.com/channel/UCThjjlEQTsrFb5GVGetBPjA?sub_confirmation=12. defeated him at Magnesia thus already reducing much of the Greek empire to vassal status. At the time appointed he shall return, and come Ezekiel 38:8,9 After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them, Daniel 11:7,13,15,40 But out of a branch of her roots shall one stand up in his estate, which shall come with an army, and shall enter into the fortress of the king of the north, and shall deal against them, and shall prevail: . He shall not pay attention to any other god, for (BC)he shall magnify himself above all. Twenty years later the Jews were besieged and their city destroyed by Rome. Destruction cometh; and they shall seek peace, and there shall be none. And in the end of years they shall join themselves together; for the king's daughter of the south shall come to the king of the north to make an agreement: but she shall not retain the power of the arm; neither shall he stand, nor his arm: but she shall be given up, and they that brought her, and he that begat her, and he that strengthened her in these times. 5:9; Dan. The history begins with three Persian kings, then a fourth who is far richer than the others (11:2). Vespasian was declared emperor in 69 A.D. Vespasian had been engaged in crushing a revolt of the Jews in Palestine, and the next year his son Titus captured and destroyed Jerusalem. That would make their agreement strong. ESV Text Edition: 2016. 12 When the army is carried off, the king of the South will be filled with pride and will slaughter many thousands, yet he will not remain triumphant. WebAnd both these kings' hearts shall be to do mischief, and they shall speak lies at one table; but it shall not prosper: for yet the end shall be at the time appointed. 45And he shall plant the tents of his palace between the seas and (AI)the glorious holy mountain; (AJ)yet he shall come to his end, and no one will help him. Daniel 11.21 So he shall return and show regard for those who forsake the holy covenant. Antiochus offered to reduce taxes by a third and grant a tax exemption for three years in exchange for Judean assistance against Ptolemy (this was a false promise Antiochus could not afford to reduce taxes). 49:36; Ezek. Ptolemy III Euergetes returned to his own kingdom. 34When they stumble, they shall receive a little help. 41He shall also enter the Glorious Land, and many countries shall be overthrown; but these shall escape from his hand: (AF)Edom, Moab, and the [s]prominent people of Ammon. 2And now will I shew thee the truth. The Persian Empire lasted another 150 years before Alexander conquered it, likely in response to the sacking of Athens. But she shall not retain the strength of 2 And now I will show you vthe truth. In those days she will be betrayed, together with her royal escort and her father and the one who supported her. 42He shall stretch out his hand against the countries, and the land of Egypt shall not escape. 23And from the time that an alliance is made with him he shall act deceitfully, and he shall become strong with a small people. Bible > Daniel > Chapter 11 > Verse 14 eBibles Free Downloads Audio Daniel 11:14 Context Crossref Comm Hebrew Verse (Click for Chapter) 33And those of the people who understand shall instruct many; yet for many days they shall fall by sword and flame, by captivity and plundering. Start FREE. Rome begins its rise to an empire with one man power.In the early years, Rome was governed by a senate and assembly, not by an authoritative ruler. 11.8 Scripture taken from the New King James Version. But out of a branch of her roots shall one stand up in his estate, which shall come with an army, and shall enter into the fortress of the king of the north, and shall deal against them, and shall prevail: And shall also carry captives into Egypt their gods, with their princes, and with their precious vessels of silver and of gold; and he shall continue more years than the king of the north. She did not stay loyal to Julius Caesar but joined with Anthony, his rival. If you have any questions, please review our Privacy Policy or email us at [email protected]. WebClarke's Commentary. 16But he who comes against him shall (V)do as he wills, and (W)none shall stand before him. WebDaniel 11 Commentary Daniel 11 Commentary Summary: Read Daniel 11 KJV along with a helpful commentary. Daniel 11:40 At the time of the end, the king of the South will While the kingdoms of Egypt and Syria were subsisting, the king of the south and the north applied to them exclusively: but they did not exist at the time of 24When the richest provinces feel secure, he will invade them and will achieve what neither his fathers nor his forefathers did. So the king of the south shall come into his kingdom, and shall return into his own land. 15Then the king of the north shall come and (U)throw up siegeworks and take a well-fortified city. 11.9 He actually ruled from Babylon and was worhshiped as a god. My face will I turn also from them, and they shall pollute my secret place: for the robbers shall enter it and defile it. You treat the Bible as a history book as opposed to a Prophetic book. Want the Verse of the Day sent to your inbox? For they would not walk in his ways, neither were they obedient unto his law. He was to be strong. Violent ones among your own people will exalt themselves in fulfillment of the vision, but they will fail. Then the latter will raise a great multitude, but that multitude will be handed over to [ b]the former. 11 And the king of the South will be enraged and go out and fight [ a]with the king of the North. WebThe Prophet Daniel wrote about a future confrontation between the king of the north and the king of the south. And tens of thousands shall fall, but these shall be delivered out of his hand: (BJ)Edom and (BK)Moab and the main part of the (BL)Ammonites. Xerxes (486-465) has been identified as the fourth king since the time of Jeromes commentary. Xerxes was perhaps the wealthiest of the kings of Persian, building the empire with the largest army of the era, 2.6 million men. He invaded Greece, although was turned back in 480 B.C. 2:10, [Deut. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. 17:3]; Dan. Now Rome is moving forward to conquer the whole Hellenistic World. Bible > Daniel > But he that cometh against him shall do according to his own will, and none shall stand before him: and he shall stand in the glorious land, which by his hand shall be consumed. This will again be seen in the Islamic take over of the south during the Middle Ages when the stout horn of the fourth beast has supremacy in the North. 37He shall pay no attention to the gods of his fathers, or to the one beloved by women. 12Blessed is he who waits, and comes to the one thousand three hundred and thirty-five days. His most recent book is The Book of Enoch for Beginners: A Guide to Expand Your Understanding of the Biblical World (Rockridge, 2022). 3Then (C)a mighty king shall arise, who shall rule with great dominion, and (D)do according to his will. For the king of the north shall return, and shall set forth a multitude greater than the former, and shall certainly come after certain years with a great army and with much riches. 9:12; Matt. 26:20; Jer. And with the arms of a flood shall they be overflown from before him, and shall be broken; yea, also the Prince of the covenant. 7:2; 8:8; Zech. Those who acknowledge him he shall load with honor. Ptolemy IV Philopater (221-203) was a weak and indecisive king and did not act to defend his territory until the Antiochus III was in Egypt (11:11-12). When he did act, he was relentless. But hell defeat them both and take up residence in the Lords city as if to defy His right to it. Behold, there shall stand up yet three kings in Persia; and the fourth shall be far richer than they all: and by his strength through his riches he shall stir up all against the realm of Grecia. 12 When he has taken away the multitude, his heart will be [ d]lifted up; and he will cast down tens of thousands, but he will not (Q) 19After this, he will turn back toward the fortresses of his own country but will stumble and fall,(R) to be seen no more.(S). he had built his army to the point that he was ready to attack Egypt. It was Constantine that signed the Sunday law, of the veneral day of the sun which appeared to him the significant and effective expression of the union between paganism and Christianity, thus making Sunday the legal institution of the Christian church. But his sons shall be stirred up, and shall assemble a multitude of great forces: and one shall certainly come, and overflow, and pass through: then shall he return, and be stirred up, even to his fortress. He shall turn back and pay attention to those who forsake the holy covenant. Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. 19Then he shall turn his face toward the fortress of his own land; but he shall (Q)stumble and fall, (R)and not be found. And he shall work his will and return to his own land. 26Even those who eat his food shall break him. And when he hath taken away the multitude, his heart shall be lifted up; and he shall cast down many ten thousands: but he shall not be strengthened by it. History shows that pagan celebrations were given Christian meaning. The Grecian kingdom finally resolves into two, ruled by the Seleucids & Ptolomies. Indeed, many Jews joined the destruction of the Ptolemy Vs army. 6And at the end of some years they shall join forces, for the daughter of the king of the South shall go to the king of the North to make an agreement; but she shall not retain the power of her [a]authority, and neither he nor his [b]authority shall stand; but she shall be given up, with those who brought her, and with him who begot her, and with him who strengthened her in those times. He will take action against it and then return to his own country. You may unsubscribe from Bible Gateways emails at any time. Hallmark of apostacy. Chapter 11 talks about Julius Caesar, all of the Persian Kings, Alexander the Great, Cleopatra and the rise of the Roman Empire and Catholic Church. Daniel 11.16 Daniel 11.18 Ez. And when he shall stand up, his kingdom shall be broken, and shall be divided toward the four winds of heaven; and not to his posterity, nor according to his dominion which he ruled: for his kingdom shall be plucked up, even for others beside those. The vision then briefly describes a mighty king, undoubtedly Alexander the Great (11:3-4). 32Those who do wickedly against the covenant he shall [o]corrupt with flattery; but the people who know their God shall be strong, and carry out great exploits. Roman Emperor Constantine was a devout universal follower of the Cult of Sol Invictus, whose motto was (is) Soli Invicto Comitiwhich is translated as, Committed to the Invincible Sun. Daniel 11.19 Daniel 2 describes these kingdoms that were divided under Rome ruled over by their own kings; Israel to the north & Judah the Beast that demanded & got by Rome Gods Messiah Sons Crucifixion murder- Rome washed its hands of the Responsibility. WebDaniel 11:13 For the king of the north shall return, and shall set forth a multitude greater than the former, and shall certainly come after certain years with a great army and with much riches. King James Version (KJV) < Previous Verse Next Verse > Get the BEST VALUE in digital Bible study as you prepare for Easter. Octavian was name Augustus Caesar and ruled for 45 years. A second condition which prepared the Christians for their departure from truth and for their eventual union with Pagan. 25And he shall stir up his power and his heart against (AJ)the king of the south with a great army. 20His successor will send out a tax collector to maintain the royal splendor. The younger, Antiochus III Magnus, (Antiochus the Great) (223-187) regaining much of the lost territory and then took the Seluecid throne. For the king of the north shall return, and shall set forth a multitude greater than the former, and shall certainly come after certain years with a great army and with much riches. 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