03-10-09, 06:54 PM #10. redsox1804. I had the surgery in august of 2014. It may be at MEPS, it may be later in your career. I knew she couldn't hack it but she joined anyways). Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Does MEPS pull your military medical records. What Is The Biggest Lie You Ever Heard, Told Or Someone Told You? Though my friend told me his exam consisted of a puff eye test, exam for glaucoma screening. Lying will. I lied at MEPs about multiple things, I don't think it has affected my ability to be a soldier. Alright, you've got me interested. See TheBeneGesseritWitch's guide on Paths to become an Officer. You are using an out of date browser. Always good advice. A forum to discuss Navy Recruiters, processing at MEPS, Delayed Entry Program, Enlisted Ratings, "A" Schools, Officer Candidate School, Recruit Training Command, and transferring to your first command. Texted him asking if he got the paperwork and he said he did (at this point I knew a commander came in and talk to the two and now I know he is pissed). I played my "sax" a lot in basic. Free online program to promote the safety and well-being of military families. One of those better to ask for forgiveness than permission situations it seems. Instead, she had abysmal chances for waiver approval because she never got the additional examination needed for a waiver (plus lying isn't helpful to a case), so she was separated despite the recommendation of her MTI. It will regenerate itself in about three to five days. Anyone with any experience or advice? Please don't sabotage your own union's efforts on your behalf. Haven't met a personw ho didn't lie. They determined she only had typical "walking" pneumonia, meaning she would just be held back for 1-2 weeks and join another BMT flight to graduation. Retired in '02 as a Senior Chief(E-8 for you landlubbers). Telling them what I told the recruiter and what he told me. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://www.reddit.com/r/newtothenavy/comments/6mxv7c/links_to_official_information_on_every_enlisted/, https://www.public.navy.mil/netc/centers/ceneoddive/ndstc/documents/manmed_chap15.pdf. Generally speaking, no. Not sure why I didnt expect this or was told this. Should I just wait for him to contact me? The largest military subreddit on reddit. I was planning on saying the wrist scar was from jumping over the fence as a kid or something like that. However, you do sign a paper that allows the navy to look through your medical history if something bad happens during training. That's just the way it happens. In the end, I did everything I could to prove I was completely fine. (January 6, 2021, subversive for attending the rally - not me, but a friend). Fraudulent Enlistment. Know all the risks and procedure limitations. What's the deal? Right now, between your profile information and this post, you're what we like to call a "tool bag". I got LASIK a few months ago, I know the minimum time from surgery to MEPs has to be at least 6 months. Then to delete your comments, simply click on your username on Reddit, go to the comments tab, scroll down as far as possible (hint: use RES), and hit the new OVERWRITE button at the top. Once you have gone through initial questioning phases with your recruiter and have discussed your options, your recruiter will set an. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. However, they also discovered that the member received some depression counseling about 2 years before her MEPS visit, which she conveniently omitted. The wrist has handled push ups every other day since I was cleared to get back to it and my eyes are perfect, but I'll know for sure at 6 months. I feel like this is a test so see if I won't bother to accrue some letters regardless and I'm not sure what to do. Learning has occurred - give it time to sink in. Here is the Press Release. Option 2: Lie. I have to go to a cardiologist 3 weeks from now to say if its a no go or not . Discomfort after surgery is minimal, and vision recovery usually takes place in 1 to 2 days. I have been 100% honest with my paperwork. (yes pretty much threw him and his boss underneath the bus). I got both of these surgeries in order to be a seal, and would fucking hate if the reason I can't get in are the very surgeries I got in order to qualify for training. Stuck waiting for MEPS to process my info from Military to Military as well as MEPS to MEPS. My ex, who was batshit crazy, probably Bi-polar and was on meds most of her teen life lied about it ALL at MEPs. And yet when the recruiter tells them to lie so he doesn't have to do paperwork they always believe him that no one will find out. Do not attempt to interpret the questions your recruiter and MEPS will ask you--answer them as they are written. So a few days later I went to MEPS but before we went we had to fill more paperwork out. Bit of stretch that anybody would have any insight on this subject, but the only thing stopping me from getting accepted for MEPS is my LASIK documentation. Do not attempt to interpret the questions your recruiter and MEPS will ask you--answer them as they are written. Never saw him again. I also had to have my opthalmologist fill out a form called MEPS Refractive Eye Surgery worksheet.Look at MANMED regarding LASIK. If I go back to my doctor and ask them to fill it out with the actual dates (even though its not exactly on the mark of '90 days'), will it be a waste of time to send back to MEPS, maybe with a statement attached? Downside, you might take a bit longer to get the green light to process and might also have to get documentation from your doctor that you don't need your meds anymore. I plan on waiting the 6 months. That sent me down a long road of having to get a waiver for something that had no current medical basis and was utter medical fraud. Major unions have lost court cases and in one instance suffered severe financial damage in the process. 1. You may need further evaluation or counseling before you can live a rigorous military lifestyle. They need to have a psychologist evaluate everyone at meps. Then I met his boss; Sub-station commander. For instance another friend went to meps and when he was doing the eye portion he was wearing contacts and the guy checking him didn't even notice. So if you do lie and something goes wrong at buds, they do have the right to dig through your medical history and they will probably find out about the surgery and lasik. Because he felt that his condition was very mild, and that it was part of his cousin's support program, he did not disclose this to his Recruiter, nor MEPS. On the way to Meps we got a call from the Chief who asked us if we had ever been asked to lie, had criminal charges etc. Thank you for the quick replies. Lost the navigator slot and was made a C130 mechanic. Handle this the right way, as you should all things. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. This includes lying by omission (leaving information out) and lying by commission (purposefully misleading). So I handed all of my medical and education records that he said to not worry about to the recruiter. I have ADHD and a prescription but function perfectly fine off the meds bc ADHD does not effect me much at all anymore. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Is there a glaucoma suspect trait i should be wary of, are there any other eye traits that would require further testing. MEPS, short for Military Entrance Processing, rolled out a new system yesterday called MHS Genesis. If you struggle from any of the conditions mentioned below, it is a good idea to speak with a local U.S. Military recruiter. Never got caught. In bootcamp a kid had asthma and almost passed out going through the chicken road and he got kicked out for lying about his asthma, so I would be honest. I genuinely had not considered that the way I'm acting could be considered morally suspect, or aggravating to the recruiter. Take the advice and think on it. Press J to jump to the feed. I've done the 1 month check and will do the 6, 3 months is coming up so I'll have to get that on the books. My recruiter went the other direction, really stressed "Make sure you disclose EVERYTHING". I have enough money saved to get the surgery, and I'm willing to wait the 180 days, but I don't know how available that waiver is, and my OR doesn't recommend doing anything that will create more hurdles for me to get past at MEPS, stating each hurdle decreases my chances of becoming an officer. Talked to a bunch of people about it and asked why does it say "no" if clearly should have been "yes". She got counseling for the suicide gesture and related stress, which eventually resolved, and she again received more counseling for anger management a few years later (this was what the BMT medics discovered). Our advice is consistently not to lie at MEPS. See Article 83 UCMJ. ", he thought the answer was "No" because his cousin was the one getting counseling and he hadn't been diagnosed. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. The flap is then placed back into its original position. Further investigation found she had a suicide gesture about 6 years earlier due to stress from a recently ended relationship, loneliness (had no friends for support), and academic struggles (failing some college courses). Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. Some people really really want to join, and they'll try anything. 1) I have been told by my Officer Recruiter that I do NOT need any Letters of Recommendation for a package. I'm certain they won't be. I was in the same spot. When I went to meps, I went into a room with a doctor, he made me strip down to my underwear and told me to slowly spin in a circle twice, so they will most likely notice any major scars. Maybe from 2001-2007 or so she could. After seeing the counselor for about 3 months, he was diagnosed with Dysthymia and Social Anxiety Disorder (SAD). The forms tell you that you must disclose it. I just finished MEPS after having LASIK.I had to provide all medical documentation from the surgery (pre-op, post-op information, etc.) This is a process a person goes through after they have gone through the medical screening to join the army. Do not encourage lying. Did I Lie at MEPS??! These include conditions like depression, bipolar disorder, epilepsy, heart issues, Asperger's, and PTSD. HELP!!! No. He might have been denied, or if he was approved, he would at least have been more prepared to handle the BMT experience. I was told I had heart murmur when I was 6 and was told that I would grow out of it little to say I didn't they found it at meps . It may not display this or other websites correctly. He hadn't been "prescribed" an anti-depressant because he only took some medicine on a short, trial basis. You may need further evaluation or counseling before you can live a rigorous military lifestyle. A slight delay in schedule will not change your end game. The cousin survived, and revealed she was deep in a gambling debt. Recruiter told me to lie . However, herein lies the problem. Breaking subreddit rules may result in a ban from r/newtothenavy and r/navy. So its been about 2 weeks now and have been too scared to talk to him. Lying will. ), Arborry Hill Road Company, LLC Copyright 2006-2023, Service Academy Forums is a registered trademark of Arborry Hill Road Company, LLC. Most major airlines are in negotiations at this time, and many are contentious. He was counseled, evaluated, and treated for EIA. First, you didn't believe your OR so you called his boss who said the same thing, and then you come here looking for validation of the opposite advice. x10 bus middlesbrough to newcastle price. I am going into the marines and have a contract to go to security school where you need a TS if you complete it. Obviously I will tell them about my felony charge. Be the first to receive exciting news, features, and special offers from Bodybuilding.com! My recruiter is telling me that some things are best left unsaid. And more people are going to lie now that everyone is getting diagnosed with ADHD because they're not interested in school (and ADHD is a disqualifier). or "Do you have a history of depression? Come visit our wiki over in r/Navy. This is for prior service and new applicants. Don't they pull your medical records, or did this happen after they checked? I swear I've met more dudes getting chaptered in the infantry for mental problems (like a few guys are mentally insane) than I ever imagined. What should I do. One guy kept getting ahold of his prrsonal items somehow and got caught playing a saxophone in the barracks. Any advice? Lying at MEPS is punishable by a $10,000 fine and 5 years in prison. I got to certain sections and told him I have to say "yes" to these questions and I knew how important they were. May 14, 2016 Just a note, if you decide to lie about it, you need to be sure that you won't let it slip sometime later. So I left his office and my recruiter took me to up to the hotel. Lied at MEPs about mental health history and drug history. They only care in the beginning because they don't want to waste money on you for "XYZ" reason for processing, no matter how bullshit it is. I went through Air Force BMT in the lste 70's . We lost quite a few, we were down to just a few of us by graduation. I am perfectly health for Army service and will be telling hte MEPS doctors that *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win. Do you think the risk of getting shit bags and future suicides is worth the chance that one of them might be decent? A magnifying glass. Everyone I know lied about something, he'll if everyone was honest about drug use there wouldn't be a military. Let's all throttle back a bit. The recruiter will come up with the necessary "details" of what happened and will move on to the next recruit. From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm. No personally identifying information (PII). But Im afraid that they will go back on my medical records and find out I lied . I'm guessing you're done. 2. Lying on your SF-86 is an aspect of personal conduct, and deliberately falsifying or omitting information prevents investigators from getting the full picture of who you are and how you have conducted yourself thus far. Buy, Sell, and Trade your Firearms and Gear. Personally, go find another doctor that is ex-military that can weed through the BS. !, Military Life and Issues, 8 replies Lying scumbag Johnson on MSNBC lying-no challenge from host, Elections, 31 replies Anything that deals with flying can cause problems with some that have had Lasik. if the issue will not comprise your ability to serve in your unit and MOS, keep your mouth shut.. What about me? MEPS consult will do the corneal mapping, so no, we don't just guess at the diagnosis. Any help would be appreciated. My knees were pretty well shot after 4 years active 11B. They may lie about behaviors, charges, and other possible information that could disqualify them from enlisting in the military. One of the worst things in the world is getting a fraudulent enlistment discharge after making it through 2 months of boot. We all come to this website for information and most of us have been corrected on our approach by the main contributors in some fashion. When I went to MEPs, like most people, I had something to lie about. Seriously folks, stop with the medical determinations. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. I called the head recruiting office in my district and he said the same thing (trust but verify), that letters of rec are no longer considered important to packages. They don't pull up your records unless you need a clearance or unless it comes up. He did well on the entrance exams and was motivated to succeed. I told him "no" because I did disclose everything with him if asked. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Seems ridiculous that I had the surgery over a year ago and this is the only thing stopping me from getting processed in MEPs. I had lasik back in November and just had an enhancement to my left eye on Friday that I've been stressing about. They are looking for consistency". He was only talking to a counselor because his cousin needed help and he wanted to support her as best he could. Post by Cisco4711 January 12th, 2010, 7:10 am. It is irrelevant whether the union itself has anything to do with the action. Thanks for the details. Privacy Policy. Shoulda been a dishonorable. What is the worst that can happen? HELP!!!! He stopped seeing the counselor after only 6 months from beginning counseling and successfully continued his college education. A bunch of others told me to just play dumb . I realize you were told to lie, but you should have refused. Some typical things that people lie about at MEPS include: Medical History If you would like to protect yourself, add the Chrome extension TamperMonkey, or the Firefox extension GreaseMonkey and click Install This Script on the script page. It may not display this or other websites correctly. My dad said hell no, lost 60lbs and 6 years later has had zero knee pain. Sounds about like what I figured. 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