I see a lot of Blackhawk advocates. I saw one 200 yards from my home while deer hunting several years ago. Is it a powerhouse, as a bear cartridge? sounds like you have too many guns and cant decide on which one to take. There are no stopping calibers; only stopping shots. Can you shoot while on your back or while youre being chewed on? Once you get over 300gr. An old farm fence stopped the bear at 11 yards and gave me the chance to get that cap on. I believe that model Ruger is single action, right? As an Army veteran, I had no problem with my shot placement just my faith in loads. You dont need a laboratory test to confirm that it was behaving strangely. a Ruger Blackhawk, chambered in .45 Colt, stainless finish with a 7 -inch barrel. The second shot went CLICK. However, I can get 2 aimed shots with my hot 10mm for every one with any big bore revolver Ive ever shot. mountain lion primarily subsists on large ungulates, small mammals including porcupine, hares and rabbits, ground squirrels, and beaver may also supplement its diet. The California Department of Fish and Wildlife has granted a number of these in the last week, The Los Angeles Times reported. Keith by Buffalo Bore . thank you kindly for sharing your extensive knowlege and guidance.I would be interested in your opinion of Underwood extreme penetrator cartridge 44 mag or 45 lc as to changing the attitude of a not well intentioned any bear . Well there is some in one instance provided no less by the original fellow who created sells Bear Spray Now you find a lot of mumbo jumbo to suggest bear spray is no less effective that a firearms.. then the predictable firearms in parks concerns.. Firearms safety To sum up when you do read the common information .. Really. Crossdraw holster. Cue the whining about how much of a shame it is to kill such a majestic animal. If the Hellsing 454 Casull is ever made (semi- auto), I want one. I got a buddy who is a duputy with Harris County (Tx) Sherrifs office. These people were lucky they didnt get rabies. Supposedly it will go through armor vests, 1.5 inches of steel, etc. 9mm is acceptable against two legged foes, but with an angry mountain lion you want something with some real punch to it. The 4-3-1 rule is a good rule of thumb, however, I agree with the comments about a 10mm. He said 45 colt loaded with a 300 grain plus hard cast bullet. Id take the 9mm any day if it was my only 2 choices, loaded with 147 flat nose +P+ from Underwood Ammo. You have entered an incorrect email address! I dont shoot them well enough, fast enough to satisfy me, 2. 300 grains is on the low end for 50ae. All of these four-legged animals that have attacked humans are in my state: Please reply. Its been years since Ive regularly shot revolvers. After feeding on its kill, the lion will cache the prey, or bury it in a secluded spot. Underwood now has a 230grain all copper extreme hunter load at 1700fps. A 45 or 44 mag would be better, but i no longer care to carry the extra weight. Si saw a black bear last year, and got lost running away from it. Yes and no.. It is likely this mountain lion killed the lambs as they are readily available. and females' territories can range up to 60 square miles. Plus spray gives you a non-lethal way of dealing with somebody's "loving" pet. FMJ. It took two more rounds to bring it down, running about 60 yards. My advice: If youre standing, attempt to avoid a confrontation; and mentally prepare yourself for the greater likelihood that youll be on your back being chewed on. Something doesnt fit here. A lion is a powerful and lethal predator and can easily kill a mule however a mule can be quite an adversary. You should also use common sense when traversing through these areas by avoiding mannerisms that could be interpreted by a bear that youre easy prey. However, please dont cast aspersions toward those who have done their own homework and made their own best choices. This has way more energy and velocity ahah a standard loading and the judge and governor probably would not safely shoot those loads. That accounted for its lethargic behavior when it quietly approached they boy and his cousin near a river in Arizonas Tonto National Forest. uh://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/two-attacked-by-cougar-identified-wildlife-officials-say-predator-was-emaciated/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=article_title_1.1, https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/two-attacked-by-cougar-identified-wildlife-officials-say-predator-was-emaciated/. Its getting to be real world, daily and wont get better until folks like us step up and step forward. .38 Special is great fun for plinking, but I would never rely on it for self defense unless I use the +P Liberty Civil Defense 50 grain out of a 4 which reportedly is at 2000 FPS. It has been updated through June of 2017. Its the sick, injured, old one that will risk human contact. Remember you can be turned into bear shit with in two days if you are wrong! tell me want have you really killed lately. Get as informed as you can, and make the best choice you can. A single bite around the throat from a mountain lion can be fatal to prey . . Cork Graham (corkgraham.com) , a fellow writer, hunter, and Alaska resident not to mention an actor on the Discovery Channel had a bit of a different perspective. For actual hunting a big bear, 375 H&H; I guess I love the classics. He has spent more than a bit of time in pursuit of bears, hogs, and other game animals with a handgun, in addition to time spent in the Alaskan game fields. Agreed. It seems to be a matter of carrying largest caliber you can for the situation, with the proviso that you be able to deliver sufficient rounds on target. Ruger alaskan, or Taurus Raging Bull in 5 or 6.5 ported, .480 ruger with 400g hardcast pushing 1100fps or more. Sheep and goats are the most commonly killed domestic livestock, but mountain lions also kill cattle, The species are abundant in the state, numbering around 4,000 to 6,000 estimated creatures. What about a Judge or Governor, that can shoot .45 Long Colt or .410 shotgun shells? The female mountain lion in a chilling faceoff with a solo trail runner in Utah wasn't trying to kill him. 400g hornady JHP on a 300lb hog shot from front, while laying prone, went through the shoulder, traveled full length of body and exited hind-quarter over 2.5 feet of thick, dense, penetration. 39% were found to . Great article. He has 158 grain, cast SWC and SJSP flat point, +P ammuntion that are showing 890 FPS muzzle velocity on the boxes. Mountain lions have a size advantage, a power advantage, and more weapons in their arsenal to kill a wolf. I believe he used a 9mm. The issues penetration. You have been reading to many comic books. In most cases, a 22 caliber rifle will not be able to kill a mountain lion. A good .357 Magnum and I really like the Kimber K6s will definitely come in handy. I was helping a friend butcher a hog he had raised. Its lack of weight had me cringing at first, expecting some wrist-wrenching recoil, but I was pleasantly surprised with the manageability of the K6s. The people who shot the cougar had no way of knowing that the cougar had rabies when they shot it. Unfortunately, an enraged bear will knock you down before your gun clears leather. Natural enemies include other large predators such as bears, lions, and wolves. The only explanation that I can think of is that it was pumped full of adrenaline. I carry both in a Blackhawk Alaska Guide Holster in the field, and in a Galco leather CCW holster under my belt in town: since being on TV, I learned that stalkers can be just as dangerous a charging bear. Park staff monitor the population through satellite GPS collars, remote cameras and . People started carrying bear spray in that area. I own a 45 Colt Ruger Bisley with a 5 1/2 inch barrel ,among other larger caliber handguns , and it is far and away my favorite for handgun hunting or a defensive woods gun. This is why I prefer my .460 Roland it has compensator for better follow on second shot. That being said i would still rather has a single action 44 mag or 45 colt than a 9mm for bear defenseanyday! The ultimate outcomeof this predatory performanceisn't clear, but watching a puma stalking a pair of bull elk makes for an unforgettable sighting. Unless you are an expert hand-gunner with tons of real world experience.. carry a rifle and have the pistol as backup. Magnum revolver for not only armed defense against both two and four legged In the early hours of 25 November 2016, the day after . He put his paw on his shoulder. Published on February 15, 2019 02:47 PM. +P Semi-Wadcutter HP Ammo [38G] - $20.95 Or if you are really recoil sensitive these would work pretty well, non-plus p and low velocity. Any suggestion that a 9mm or 357 magnum is any gun better than none in brown bear country is ridiculous. Weve got them here in the Central Mountains of Utah. 10 mm HAH why not hit the Bear with your Purse? Fly fishing in AK, and knocking around the woods I often carry a stainless charter target bulldog in 44 special. There are a lot of good things to be said about a shotgun and big buckshot in regard to saving ones own life! I started reloading and when the bear got to about 12 yards, I dropped my percussion cap in the leaves. A 45 Long Colt? My 10mm load is right at 700. 1988 a Montana Fish and Game Officer utilized same handgun to dispatch a Grizzly Find where Forrest Service websites describe the various stages of Bear attacks and when to shoot in self defense. I wouldnt recommend anything less than .44 mag or equivalent. Bears, wild critters, thats all very nice and fluffy. I mostly use single action pistols in 44 Mag, 45 colt, 454 casull, and a Bowen 475 Linebaugh that is my favorite. Mountain lions are a specially protected species in California. .45 Colt may be questionable, but better than a .38. Into a wheel gun ! Disease is a greater concern when lions are genetically isolated as in the Santa Ana Mountains, and could potentially contribute to future decline in that population. shop reading and start thinking. I would want a 45 cal or at least a 9mm double action semi-auto with a chambered cartridge every time. Next post: AFLoader, the Automated Universal Pistol Magazine Loader, Previous post: Waterfowl Artillery: CZ Swamp Magnum, Your email address will not be published. Ivy. They have great hunting senses that help them spot prey along with sharp claws and powerful bites. They understood the dangers. I hope those guides told you that if you fire a round, bears start coming from all directions to eat the free gut pile. His wife left Houston shortly after he passed. In this case, the mountain lion was found to have rabies. or wherever. The mountain lion known as P-56 was killed January 27, 2020. You can keep your semi-autos and single action revolvers. The next stage of the disease results in paralysis. closer than 35 feet heading in your direction should be engaged? If I cant do it with that then I guess I was destined to lose that fight. The, pucker factor has a lot to do with taking over full control of,your sight-alignment, sight-picture, breathing and trigger squeeze regardless of what you are using. The animal slain by the man charged on Tuesday was a mountain lion known to wildlife biologists as P-38, a male about 7 years old believed to have sired four litters of cubs, said Karen Wold . The .45 Colt has long been my favorite cartridge in the Blackhawk. Moutain Lions arent bear-zombie-meat-tanks. The 454 would probably be better and I did have a 500 S&W in 4 inch but as heavy as it was I figured it was easier to carry a 12 ga pump on a sling and let someone carry out the meat while I protected them. Told me to that towards evening they made Camp during Daylight Hours. You are on the Alaskan highways lets get that straight. 44 mag or most any other caliber in those ranges if the person using it knows how to shoot. And maybe just maybe you walk away on the top side of the ground. This gun is horrible to carry full time when it must be out of site sometimes!! Humans travel about 21MPH tops.. Bears.. 35mph.. How many miles can a mountain lion travel? .357 magnum will probably work as long as you're not running into any bears .44 magnum is preferable. We hadnt thought of that. Id be packing heat. Pretty cool! most likely you sleep in your rig also. hard cast projectile @ 1,300+ fps. Made me wonder Dont these manufacturers know that hard cast is more effective? Perhaps they were just given that name to sound scary, but are really made for 2 legged predators? They come in 45 Win Mag and 50 AE as well. I probably keep the fine folks at Magpul in business with my 50, 40 and 30 mag purchases. He lives every day with brown bears and has guided to dozens if not hundreds of them. Beside, everyone agrees, and it has been my personal experience in bear (black only so far, but grizzly are about) stand-offs hauling out elk quarters in the Bitterroot Mtns that youre only going to get two shots and the extra round of a semi-auto (6 + 1) offers over a six-shooter revolver is a debate of deck chair arrangements on the Titanic. Mountain Lion Attack Stopped by Man with Handgun in 2010, Teenager Sexually Assaults Friends Mom, Gets Rejected at Gunpoint, TTAG Daily Digest: Actually Shooting Someone, Ratings Kryptonite and the NRA in the Time of Trump. There was also a guy who used the Air Force M6 .22 LR/.410 GA over/under rifle/shotgun. If you carry an effective caliber/bullet combination for 400+ pound bears, wild boars, and feral hogs, you are carrying way too much gun for coyotes and small mountain lions. Can a wolf beat a mountain lion? While Snap decisions in day to day life are a bad idea.. You can also use a hunting rifle or pistol to fire at the lion if it makes a charge at you. But I enjoy listening to people who think they know everything prove they dont. Just aim above the front tire, through the fender taking out the engine block. Oct. 14, 2020 6:15 PM PT. The Smith & Wesson 329 PD is by far the best handgun choice for self-defense against bears and boars while out and about in the woods. Between 3- and 3.5-inch-wide tracks. My mountain weapon is a 458 SOCOM, semi-auto, from a 8in barrel, eotech halo-graphic, green laser and 1000 lumen light, with a 300gr lead tip hollow point. I have two dogs and they said that might provoke the bears. In Alaska, we not only have to deal with the common two-legged variety of vermin found in every place in the world, but also the large, four-legged beasts that can either kill and trample you with their hooves, or rip you apart with their claws and teeth; its the latter which draw hunters to the Last Frontier with high-power, large caliber rifles. I have yet to set foot in Alaska, but I have many friends and colleagues who either live there, or have significant hunting experience in the 49th state, where encounters with brown bears can honestly represent the hunter becoming the hunted. They invited me out and told me that if I go, be forewarned that there are grizzlies about. Regardless, I draw the line at 10mm and 45 Super as my bottom 2 choices in bear country. I have been carrying my 1911 or my Taurus PT-92 for years and know what each round can do as a former US Army medic. What would make a good companion piece [long gun] regardless of sidearm? You need to shoot a few of the +Ps every Spring to remember where they are hitting. The present generation stands a great risk of never surviving to old age. With respect to the brownies, I have reached out to the bear guides, residents and hunters for their wisdom and experience on the matter, to find out exactly which sidearms they favor and why. For the outdoors person a revolver can likewise My hunting partner puts his faith in the Colt .45, and it will get the job done. For small game, a 38 Spcl. They truly are amazing creatures: When you're out strolling in the woods, there's no way for you to defend yourself from a mountain lion using an air rifle. 8. All shots were heart lung.The racoon dispatched with a .45 was knocked about 4 inches sideways, crawled about a foot and died, the racoons shot with the 9 mm flinched and continued staggering towards a brushy ditch and escape, I placed a shot between the shoulder blades as I had gotten behind it and advanced from the high bank of the ditch. you spent 6 weeks on the road system not the boondocks If you are in the boondocks whatever that means? I have a buddy who guided a hunter with a .50 AE to a brown in the late eighties when it came out and it was a disaster. The lion ignored the adults in the group and went right for the children. If the mountain lion successfully ambushed a wolf, the fight is immediately over, and the wolf is dead due to a pierced skull or ripped throat. That being said, I would carry both. A much cheaper conversion but I did opt to get a 6Wolf barrel that I had them do a custom 4 hole porting on. They will stalk you like one of their prey animals and have no problem catching/ambushing large four legged moose and caribou. Yes it is a bit heavy, but as said earlier.with a charging bear 8.5lbs of 458 SOCOM feels like a down pillow . would have killed him by a horrible mauling! If you choose a 9mm in bear country, you dont want hollow points but maybe something like Lehigh Defense Extreme Penetratorwith its solid copper bullet. The result was a dead dog with one of the bears and almost a dead friend with one of the hogs. Which one are you going to use first? Until its needed. would have been just as well dead anyway. One guy, a native of Alaska (Marty) carried a .22 Magnum revolver. Hopefully, this link will work. They can be found throughout the state apart from the southeastern desert and the Central Valley. A revolver is a one threat gun so unless you are Jerry Miculek you will run out of ammo with a revolver. Brian M.- I also did the same thing with my Glock 21 accept I started with the 45 Super cartridge. Id have gladly traded it for a snub-nose .38 Special. The way I see it there exists no substitute for accuracy, proper shot placement, and You need that big chunk of lead to penetrate deep and crush stuff as it goes. Listed were all the big names but one very powerful handgun was not mentioned. Absolutely. (I have killed or watched others kill several with an ax when I was guiding. By Mary Forgione. There are many reviews of this caliber online. My advice would be take the largest caliber you can comfortably handle. Sounds like you have everything covered. The lion was dead before the mule Berry took and shook the lion. The 12-year-old in Alaska who just shot the brown with the shotgun is the son of a good friend. Once at night on a fishing trip in the beartooths we had a grizzly fooling around out side the tent, Out I went with my trusty .475 in one hand and a flashlight in the other. . into camp look for a meal in the ice chest. Do you have an animal or nature story to share with Newsweek? Until just a few few years ago, the largest bear ever killed was by a young girl in Alaska. If there is any wind at all, the fog will only travel about 3 feet before it turns and drifts in the direction of the wind. Light to carry, manageable recoil, do a quick reload of 125jhp and your good for CCW. 44 mag power in a high cap auto loader. 1400+ fpm with a 140-grain FMJ bullet out of a 4.5-inch barrel. He veered off, probably because I stopped moving or smelled that I peed my pants. Its also probably a one or two shot deal, so firepower is irrelevant. Smith & Wesson. But Garrett makes a round called hammer head. There are many rifles to go with other calibers that would be nice to have same caliber bullet in pistol and rifle (i.e. I saw a beautiful Blond one in Glacier Natl Park a couple of years ago. Companions showed up shooting to save the day. There was an Indian woman in Canada out hunting small game for the stew pot with her .22 rifle, when she found herself being hunted by a large grizzly. Option to use 45 colt 454 cas and 460 mag. Shock Wave or the Tac-12 pistols leave a bigger hole ! Buy .357 magnum at the minimum. Mountain lions dont have a reputation for requiring powerful firearms to put them down.. If a domestic animal (pet/livestock) is injured or killed by a mountain lion, the owner has the legal right in California to have the mountain lion killed. State officials have issued a permit allowing a rancher to kill P-45, a mountain lion believed to be responsible for the recent killings of livestock near Malibu, Calif. (National Park Service via AP) Capable yet not-overpowered, accurate and easy-to-control except in aluminum framed 2" snubnose versions, it remains a solid choice for discrete carry and pleasure shooting days at the local target range. Oaf, that was funny! on this subject is this: self defense/house protection/concealed carry is only half Cork Grahams rig. .38 special have been a huge disappointment for me. you rig will protect you. I havent tried it, but maybe a cut down .454 case to .45 Colt length would help with that. Although, for me, the closest I want to get to a rattler is a 44 mag snake load, preferably my Judge in .410 7 shot. That was my initial question as well. The .45 Colt makes a formidable handgun cartridge, especially in a pistol as strong as the Blackhawk, where the pressures and velocities can be ramped up a bit. Grizzlies make mock charges; black bear do not or thats what the experts say. predators, but also as a general purpose handgun. I call those DGUs as easily as a person on person. Can mountain lions jump? Mace or a .45 Colt? Yes I admit this was a freak happening. I also have a Ruger Redhawk in 45 Colt and I carry my hand loaded 300 gr hard cast bullets. Of course the welfare of humans (the public) must always come last. And its usually charging you in a self-defense situation where youre trying to penetrate all that meat, gristle and bone in the way of its vital organs. I have several 44 mags a .41, .45 Colt and 8 different .357s in various types and the 329PD is lightweight and with the 225s is heavy medicine for bears. Its very light and handy to carry. My handloads push a 300-grain hard-cast bullet to 1,614 fps. Lions or parts cannot be taken out of Colorado unless inspected and sealed. One must realize that with the adrendeline flowing, a moving target and possibly poor light conditions it is not easy to hit well with a hand gun no matter how good you are at the range! I also recommend if youre down to your last round and the bear is still coming, use the last round on yourself. That winter, I shot a buffalo @ 50 yards with 300 grain federal cast core in a ruger .44 carbine. The first dozen rounds I shot were without gloves and I got a severe cut on my support hand thumb! Ive chronoed this load at 1325fps, its kickass on Elk. My gun likes the Hornady XTPs best, and I feel confident making vital hits out to 40 yards or so with this combination. The 30-50 yd accuracy is simple.AMAZING SHOT PLACEMENT WITH POWER. You should just mount a 50 cal. The hunting part mostly Brown bear hunting. There is a lot of nonsense out on the internet from people who have never seen a bear and have probably never cut up a dead critter to see what a bullet will do. There are too many stories of people getting mauled by bears that charged right through their attempt to spray it, and they could never get to their gun in time once the bear hit. Lets stop trying to impress each other with useless specifications and gobbly-gooky BS. However, the realization that you might have to use one to defend against a couple-hundred pounds of teeth and fangs doesnt exactly make one feel like Zorro; in fact, I looked down at it and said to myself:This is gonna hurt. In the melay to draw his weapon he had hit the magazine release and his magazine fell out. If he does not already carry a firearm then he should. Put up the fishing gear and settled in for the night. All shots were heart lung ,,,edit,, All shots were attempted heart lung. I recently read the account of a man in Oregon who survived a black bear attack. into the Grizzly point blank range killing it. Think youre gonna penetrate his skull with your pea shooter? HP ammo may be great for two legged predators, not so much for those with fourand large teeth! Sun, Jan 29, 2023. . Nobody sane confronts a bear with a pistol, the 480 is not perfect for the job. I placed a dollar bill next to the track and took a photo. In Alaska, meat is often removed from a kill site via a frame pack and two strong legs, and all that blood creates a scent trail like a flashing All-you-can-eat buffet advertisement. "It is unlawful to kill a mountain lion without a permit for the California Department of Fish and . When the smoke cleared the bear was on its back waving its legs. However, should you have the misfortune of getting between a sow and her cubs, or perhaps meet a cantankerous old boar, the black bear certainly has the equipment to rearrange your anatomy, and even possibly render your birth certificate null and void. Last time I was buying bulk ammo in 5.56 mm NATO, 9 mm, .40 Smith, .44 Mag and AFLoader, the Automated Universal Pistol Magazine Loader, https://www.fws.gov/mountain-prairie/species/mammals/grizzly/bear%20spray.pdf. I think anybody going into bear country should read the article about bear defense guns and ammo @ garrettcartridges.com This should answer most questions on the subject. based on their investigations of human-bear encounters since 1992, persons encountering grizzlies and defending themselves with firearms suffer injury about 50% of the time. Been involved in 2 grizz encounters. The animal became a little wobbly and went to a tree then moved toward Paul again and it was shot a second time. They want to second guess people. heat treated WFN LBT now for these situations. Do you have a problem with this model? I doubt that I have walked past a moose without noticing. I read that several times as well. When confronted by a threat.. you need to tick off a very short, well reasoned and practiced list. An exceedingly interesting question. do revolvers. Humans make a choice to attack you and deserve what they get. white-tailed deer She attacked the 65-pound animal, striking . No thanks. 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