European model Gaggia Classic 2015 (RI9403, 240V) is NOT compatible. These wires will be connected to the solid state relay later on, so they no longer need to be in the bottom of the machine. But just like the kit I ordered, the threads on the thermocouple M8 according to the specifications are too big for the Gaggia. Wanted to double check here for some observations a about three months after installing the PID. Unfortunately, no, you cant use the factory sensor. This PID controller kit is designed to retrofit into the European Gaggia Classic espresso machines made after 2015 (model# RI9403). You wont need the heat sink, the GCs case does that job for you. You would probably blow the fuse in this controller/SSR within seconds. If you want to defeat that auto-power-off feature, please add this piece of wire to your order. Zip ties, heat shrink tubing, thermal paste, double sided tape, and a bolt and nut to attach the SSR are also required. Hi, I just completed the DIY kit last night using your guide and it all went perfectly! When I got my C100 the thermocouple was M6, i ended up buying an m4 brass bolt drilling it out, and inserting the thermo with some glue and heatshrink on it and it works like magic added some thermal paste. If anyone is 3d printing the enclosure and doesnt want to tape or otherwise attach it to the Gaggia, I have made these small hooks that can be glued on to the enclosure: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4938828. $375.00. Thermocouple included: M6*1 thread , K type , 2m cable Not sure why that was the case. Auber Instruments PID Kit for Gaggia Classic. Hi Eddie. My plan is to install the Rex C100 first using your instructions. Yes it is normal for the brew light to blink like this after you install a PID. The KIT-GG PID controller kit replaces the function of the mechanical coffee thermostat. Also, the diagram of the controller lists SSR to connects to terminals 9 & 10. The biggest problem was the fact that the brew water control did not work: the SSR was never switched on by the thermocouple output. I decided to go the do-it-yourself route, ordering the parts separately, at a fraction of the cost of the kits. Hi Nitzan. shades uses 2 connecting one ssr thru the other for steam. Do I need to make any adjustments to your procedure to make the PID handle the steam only (not caring about the group head)? Attach the solid state relay to the inside back wall of the Classic, using a small bolt and nut. 2: The add-on item option "extra wire defeating auto-off timer" is for the Gaggia Classic Pro European model (RI9480, 240V), which has the auto-turn-off timer feature. Have you written an article regarding installing a Gaggiuino mod? Thanks heaps for the detailed instructions. (Optional) Add-on Item. the PWM needs a new wire to the where the pump wire was disconnected. But this kit doesn't fit the European model RI9403, which has a stainless steel boiler with a different thermostat mounting. Most guides recommend connecting the SSR to the Gaggias (metal) body with some thermal paste, and this mount then serves as a heat sink. Thanks for the great guide. I have read reports of measurements of up to 8 degrees C lower at the portafilter. This guide should generally also apply to the 2013 GC, but you must assume that any of the switch wiring that I describe will be different for your model year. Stay connected. The steam mode has its own thermostat, which is very similar to the brew thermostat that the PID replaced, except that its temperature range is more or less as you described. Pull off the steam knob and disconnect the steam wand. I plan to do this shortly for my old gaggia classic. it works better than poor mans preinfusion described by wholelatte love & Lance in the youtube. You can only buy them as spare parts. I ran the Autotuning function couple of times and I am always getting the following values for P, I and D parameters: P=620 , I=32, D=8. I did not use a grommet. i heard from some that the PT100 with the M4 is more accurate. Thanks for the quick reply. (I believe it is currently on 5) Or shall I just keep it as it is, showing DC 100V when I turn the switch on? Good idea Chris. Do you think its going to blow my machine if I dont do correctly? Hi Rusty. Converting CUSIP-6, CUSIP-8 and CUSIP-9 to ISIN in PHP, How to automatically block WordPress bot spam without a plugin, which I ordered as an inexpensive kit with a thermocouple and a solid state relay, PID installation in Gaggia Classic causing shortcircuits ColorMag, https://wiki.wholelattelove.com/File:GAGGIA_CLASSIC_2019_Wiring_Schematic.pdf, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UETVv0qgz-w, https://coffeeforums.co.uk/topic/53319-what-temp-offset-are-you-using-with-your-pid/, https://diy.stackexchange.com/questions/195229/in-a-light-switch-how-can-i-tell-if-the-black-wire-is-really-hot-and-the-white, https://www.reddit.com/r/espresso/comments/owpfe7/i_made_a_lego_enclosure_for_rex_c100_pid/, https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00LODGP2E/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_image_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1, https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4243840, https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4938828, https://www.reddit.com/r/gaggiaclassic/comments/l5tfcj/mr_shades_pid_installed_decided_to_mount_inside, https://calbryant.uk/blog/well-integrated-pid-temperature-control-of-a-gaggia-classic-espresso-machine/#better-temperature-regulation, https://www.vertex-qis.co.uk/Manuals/PT100_con.pdf, https://photos.app.goo.gl/8yPwJcEPDi1c5tfY7, https://photos.app.goo.gl/Xp37S3o3y6bqqrEk8, https://www.shadesofcoffee.co.uk/post-2018/gaggia-classic-2019ri9480power-switch-mod. If you are in the U.S. then mains voltage is 120V, which will not kill you (unless you have a pacemaker or are standing in a bathtub) but can give you a decent shock. Select the preferred temperature unit so that all parameters are pre-set properly for you. The same can be done with the REX C100 but you need one with all 8 screw terminals (the second SSR for steam uses the alarm function which needs terminals #6 and #7) and these two are missing on some REXs. Also some pids come with a built in relay. 6 Reviews (6) $326.00. The SSR is just a fancy switch and it should only be turning on and off, so depending on how you measure you may not see current. Does the wiring youve supplied automatically shut the PID unit off when you engage the steam switch? The installation is completely reversible if you ever want to sell the machine or send it to service. Heres a picture of the screws I used, with screwdriver for scale: Great article and development, congrats! I was initially concerned about my wiring (and my GFI) but its reassuring to hear you have the same side effects. Thanks. The PID is really converting the mains voltage to 12VDC both for its internal operation and to drive the SSR, so the PIDs draw is quite small. I have installed the supply cable for PID unit using piggyback spade connectors. It is suitable for Gaggia Classic or other machines with a silver finish. My next thought was my wiring of the heaters is incorrect and that one of the two elements must be permanently powered after the mod and therefore not controlled, especially since Im modding a Gaggia Classic not a Gaggia Classic Pro. brew thermostate. Hi Gene. Shall I change the P,I and D parameters manually and what is your suggestion to start with? Auber Instruments PID Kit for Gaggia Classic. Thus brewing circuit needs to be connected directly to the heating element, not over steaming circuit. Always double-check your specific models wiring terminal layout and numbering scheme. 100% Upvoted. For those interested I just bought a cheap ($13) K-type thermocouple and thermometer (TM-902C) https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/224710871179. PID KIT for Gaggia Classic Pro 2018+ & Classic & Home, Pre-infusion. Log in or sign up to leave a comment. https://photos.app.goo.gl/8yPwJcEPDi1c5tfY7 Possibly not the optimal position but was really easy to install and I knew Id only be getting a relative indicative temperature anyway. (The Gaggia machine is not included in this listing). The best part is I am only in about $40 on my kit compared to around $150 for the pre made kits. You need a 85-250V DC model, as the power will be coming from the Classic, which is mains-level voltage. I bought the PiD from Amazon referenced in a comment above and its working fine. You can buy them at Ace hardware for about twenty five cents each. Thanks. Here are some pictures of the Lego enclosure: https://www.reddit.com/r/espresso/comments/owpfe7/i_made_a_lego_enclosure_for_rex_c100_pid/. This is a PID controller for the Gaggia Classic by Auber Instruments.This PID controls water and steam temperature. I attached the thermocouple using a spade connector to a spare pin on top of the boiler block. Do you think that REX-C100FK02-V*EN (designed for K-type thermocouple) is compatible with RTD (PT100) and is not going to create long-term problems with the machine/setup? The most I can say is these work for me, and are probably not optimum. A copy of the digital manuals, which includes a detailed installation guide, an operation manual, and supplementary documents. We ship every business day from our two warehouses located in Milton, Ontario and . The Auber kit looks easy since I dont have time to build my own. I will monitor it over the next few days, but if the coffee takes good, and the only thing I notice is the warmer cup tray, Ill be fine with that, better in fact! 5. Thanks for the catch, I will correct the article. 102 is even 3 degrees below my brew temperature. This prevents the high-pressure water from contacting the dry coffee powder which can create afast flow channel, ruiningthe brewing process. PID Control Kit for Rancilio Silvia Espresso Machine, White LED $164.99. Thank you. How to install a pid on the gaggia classic pro. Im running into problems and I dont know if my REX-C100s starting values are the problem or if its my deviation with the wiring: Regardless of the temperature that i set on my PID, toggling the Gaggia on causes it to climb to 150-160C and then slowly decline to 118-125C, at which time it will heat up again. The PID will show the temperature, and be somewhat confused by its inability to reach its setpoint, however the PID is bypassed in the same way when the GCP is in steam mode. Hi Jun, glad you found this helpful. Monday - Friday: 10am - 4:30pm. Hi Paul. Please see the compatible model list below (Note 1 on the bottom). Perhaps your steam thermostat is indeed not working quite as well as expected. Nevertheless, I will take a look and see what values my controller is set to. Please contact us if any questions. Links. I hesitate to identify wires by their color, as the wire colors in the Gaggia seem to vary from year to year and from region to region. The only suprise for me has been that installing steam kit did not help me much because brewing kit alone helped to have great steaming power by only watching temperature climb up to 150 degrees. https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4243840. This way you are not losing any pressure via the solenoid valve, you are just reducing the initial pressure to the puck by venting some of it through the steam wand. I purchased an AC to AC SSR (SSR 40AA) which will stabilise steaming temperatures in much smaller margins than the original steam thermostat. If the thermocouple wire is too long, coil it up inside the machine, well away from the boiler or any uninsulated connections, using zip ties to hold the coil in place. Auber Instruments PID Kit for Gaggia Classic. Remove the thermostat. If youre not comfortable installing this yourself, and taking on any followup maintenance, I think you would be much better off purchasing a machine that comes with a PID from the factory. I then thought what if? and decided to change the mains wires to the opposite terminals. I would like to use it for steaming ONLY. August 05, 2019, 11:46:38 PM . If not, can you think of any potential mistakes I made along the way? When the temperature stabilizes to within 1 degree of the target temperature, the auto-tuning is complete. Hi Chris, However I dont know if my unit is properly calibrated and/or has a proper offset. Hi Jun, and thanks for the update. I am flattered, but will have to pass. LED display color. What is your coffee bean dark or light? Thread the thermocouple wire through to the back of the machine, and out the same slot as was used for the other wires. When set up on my bench it tucks away nicely in behind out of sight and only needs to come out when in use. It is suitable for other colored espresso machines. 4.8. For espresso, 9 bars is the generally preferred pressure. Take your time, think it through, and be patient. PWM dimmer for preinfusion $326.00. Its crazy. I used lamp cord for this. I have only been drinking milk drinks and americanos because the shots I was pulling were always overly bitter, sour, or both, regardless of grind and quantity. After the kit is installed, the standby brew watertemperaturecan be controlled to within 1 (F or C) accuracy. Auto-tuning PID cooling/heating control Shades. Its getting very hot indeed so turned it off. Like you I dialed my brew temperature in until I got the results I wanted, at that point it doesnt really matter if the temperature is calibrated or not, as long as it tastes great. I think this would be the most important parameter of the build, obtaining the correct temp of the water. This does mean that you can only fill the water tank by pulling it out. Users needto disable the parameter Tp, Td, and only useTb as a shot timer to pump a specific time. Its stimulated a lot of interesting discussion! The cup warmer does seem a bit hotter than before (but have only used twice since installing, so Ill have to pay attention). Do you think this makes a difference? To set the target temperature, press the Set button on the front of the panel. Slip some heat shrink tubing over the thermocouple, and ideally dip the thermocouple tip in some thermal grease, then insert the thermocouple into the adapter. Apologies for the long questions, thanks in advance! Hello Chris, No extra button is needed to press for frothing. What you do get from the PID as per this guide in steam mode is the ability to see exactly what the temperature of the boiler is, so you can time your steaming to start during a heating cycle, which essentially gives you unlimited steam. The only way to cut it is to unplug the machine. Once the machine has been set to 9 bars of pressure (see bottom of article), the next big improvement is the addition of a PID. The Classics over-pressure valve (OPV) is set to 14 bars, which is a pressure better suited to the use of pressurized portafilters. These set the parameters and algorithms that monitor and control. I have re-read the specifications for this controller. The steam mode drops to 102 before the power cycle kicks back in, with the valve open or closed. But, I still get loads of steam and spray before it settles down. Im all for freedom of expression and creativity, but not when it might electrocute someone. Chris, do you recall what size flat head screw was used on the 3d printed box for the REX-100? One end of the wire should be a male disconnect connector, and the other end should be a spade connector. Warranty: 6-month limited warranty with a 30-day money-back guarantee is offered. I am not surprised that the steam kit made little difference. Users can also bypass the timer to use the switch on the machine for manually controlling the brewing process. The Gaggia Classic is a very capable espresso machine that gets even better with a couple of improvements. Ill verify the cable, its one of the cables that came with the machine, so it could likely be the strands have slowly burned with time and just needs cutting and re-crimping, as you mention. Auber Instruments. The 103 is not a true 103, that is what is getting measured in the boiler wall, and there is also a temperature drop off between the boiler and the portafilter, so your final espresso temperature will be lower. Can the PID be put inside the machine or does size constraints and/or heat negate that option? Most likely they will have the same connector types as the REX-C100, but its always possible that you will need different connectors depending on what you end up ordering. Thermocouple: J,S,K,E,Wre3 ~ Wre25 For questions, please contact us. It would be almost impossible for me to give you a complete list of the parts from Mr Shades that you will need, as it will depend on the PID and SSR models you order. I do not want to risk damaging my machine because of this. 3 months later, Ive finally set up the PID and honestly, its a gamechanger! I also think that you may have less difficulty reaching the thermostat, the 2019+ models have a lot less room to spare inside. Warning! Hi Miguel. This PID controller kit has all the features of our other listing titled "PID temperature control kit for PID Retrofit KIT for Gaggia Classic & Home, KIT-GG", with the addition of pre-infusion and steam temperature control. Read More. Thank you again for taking the time to write up such a great guide. Leave this cable longer than needed for now, it will be trimmed and terminated later. I formatted the table, its very useful. Hi Murat. Or do you think the same set will work with QB-T7100? Auber Instruments PID Kit for Gaggia Classic quantity. Thanks again for the write up, Ill be playing around with temperature for the next week! Since I cant control that, if you want to use it, you will have to parse the data: each line, after the headings, should start with the PID parameter (P, I, D) followed by the reaction of the controller. Thanks in advance, this was a huge help! Then I realized that EU models come not with a bistable rocker switch but a momentary one (so electricity flows only when you actively pushing the button). Have you gone through the (three) menus on the pid , using the instructions of your pid. My problem is that since installing the mod, my machine gets way too hot and boils. Cheers. I bought the same parts as you have reccomended in the article but have run into the issue that the thermocouple is too large to fit into the adapter (theyre approx the same OD). I would re-crimp any connections that look suspicious. I went with an insulated PT100. The rich body and complex flavor profile of a well-made shot brings the beans to life with a depth that other brewing methods fail to achieve. The 12 volt wires from the SSR connect to terminals 4 and 5. Useful link. Like NEW Gaggia Classic Espresso w/ Grinder and Base - - 6758821731. My question is where did you place the SSR, is it near the water spout, right side or in the back if you are facing the front of the machine? One question, Ever thought about adding a pre infusion feature? Is this a typo on your part or a mistake on their part? But will there be an upper limit to prevent the boiler from going near 365F and blowing thermal. Ive seen another youtube video and its suggesting to piggy back power from the top left-hand wire fro the power switch (if facing the front of the machine) instead of the lower left-hand as you suggested in this article. For the melted connector plastic, thats a sign of either a wire or a connector that is carrying too much current for its rating, or most likely, a connection between the wire and connector that is not as solid as it should be. Basically, instead of running the pump for a few seconds and then shutting it off (which dumps your pressure courtesy of the solenoid valve) you open the steam valve about 1/4 to half way, hit the brew switch and then slowly close the steam valve (about 5 seconds or so). Using two 5-8 cm pieces of properly-rated wire (15 amps for North America), make two connectors to connect the thermostat wires to the AC terminals of the solid state relay. Did you reverse any wires to the steam switch? I have not changed any of the P, I or D settings on my controller. You effectively would have two steam modes, one PID-controlled that replaces the brew mode, and one classic thermostat-controlled steam mode. Replies: 2 Views: 1,615. ), Basicknowledge of electronics wiring and safety. SSR control ready to connect external Solid State Relay to handle High current. When I started steaming at that point thermostat never shut down the boiler because temperature did not reach to limit of thermostat. You could simulate pre infusion by briefly running the pump. https://wiki.wholelattelove.com/File:GAGGIA_CLASSIC_2019_Wiring_Schematic.pdf If you can share a picture of it, or a link, I can add it to the article. It was impossible to see without getting down into the wire harness. I had no problem with my mod other than the stickers on the back of the PID were reversed, so the terminal markings were not correct. Thoughts & musings from a product developer and manager. I have briefly thought about pre-infusion but the REX C-100 is not capable of this. We bring fresh high-quality coffee to the masses. What exactly is a mains-rated wire, and where would I find one? Any ideas? Posted by 2 years ago. PID Kit for older plastic body Gaggia Classic. Auber Forum PID Kits for Coffee Machines PID Kits for Gaggia . Hi Brian. Using pliers to pull the connectors can pinch them on even more tightly, making them extremely difficult to remove. Hi Chris, i noticed you used the K type thermocouple with the M4. There are several PID kits that are available for the Gaggia, the most popular ones are by Mr. Visit store Contact. Ill try to get a new thermostat from a reputable place, see if that solves the problem, and if it remains then something else in the machine is wrong. The C-100 will fit in vertically, with the screen facing up. Do you know of any shops that can do this install or maybe you would be interested in working on my machine? However with the new steaming alarm system, I get a decrease around 10 degrees in steaming temperature as soon as AA SSR shuts down the boiler at the temperature I set, even it turns on right away (my setting is AL:156 AH:155 degrees Celcius). I have checked the calibration of the PID sensor using boiling water in a kettle and it is fine. $149.99 . Resetting or Taking out a Brewing Unit for Cleaning. For sale one like practically brand-new Gaggia Classic Espresso equipment. Applications Please see our Help Center's. Thanks for the PID info. Perhaps Ill use a spare Arduino or FPGA to PWM the boiler while brewing as someone else was saying. Hi David. So you could measure water temp at the group head at 180 deg F with the PID set to 204 deg F. There is some interesting information here: https://coffeeforums.co.uk/topic/53319-what-temp-offset-are-you-using-with-your-pid/. So I would say yes, you should use a heat sink, but the Gaggia body conveniently provides you with that function. Black case : Currently out of stock! The KIT-GG is a retrofitting kit designed to control the coffee water temperatureon an espresso machine. Do not over-tighten the adapter, it only needs to be finger-tight. For the Gaggia Classic, taking into account the temperature drop between the boiler and the group head (5-8 degrees C), the PID target temperature should be set to about 103 degrees C or 220 degrees F at sea level. In a properly wired North American outlet, the neutral wire is white, and the hot/load wire is black (ground is green). Should I get the Auber Instruments PID kit w/ pre-infusion or w/ steam control? Hi Jeff. Your email address will not be published. The C100 steps down mains voltage to 12v to power the SSR. If you have a regular version that doesn't have the auto-turn-off feature, (RI9380, 120Vor 240V), you DO NOT need this piece of wire. 3: For owners of the Gaggia Classic ProRI9380 240Vversion, please check the installation guide "KIT-GG_Classic Pro US 120V_Installation". I have found this PID kit here on Ali express and I think its the same one you fitted can you please tell me if this one is good to go, they got a 3 piece option and a 4 piece option so dont know which, I think the 4 piece option is because it includes a heat sink that you dont mention, so I assume I wont be needing it, can you please advise. And once you start considering adding in a power supply, you might as well go for a PID. Variants Coffee Only + Installation - No Coffee Only + Installation - Yes Coffee, Steam & Pre-infusion + Installation - No Coffee, Steam & Pre-infusion + Installation - Yes Quantity Free Shipping Parts The result was overshoot of up to 18C and an inability to return to the setpoint temp, 105C, unless I shut everything off and restarted. Which one shall we buy? Thanks. . Spent some time playing with temps and pulling a lot of shots to dial it in and am very happy with the results. You should see a strange number when the PID first powers on, then after about 3-5 seconds it should switch to the temperature reading from the thermocouple. Maybe this could serve instead of trying to find an M4 thermocouple. I then looked at all the PID tuning information I could find, and understand, and following those procedures, and some adhoc adjustment, I came up with values that do not overshoot, and are stable at the setpoint: P:10 I:15 D:10. Does the PID generate enough heat to melt the Lego bricks? Do I got the kit with pre-infusion or just the standard one? Do the same with the other connector wire. See all. Im tempted to return the GC because I never used it prior to the mod and it may have been a pre-existing issue. Ive been hearing the solenoid valve click several times while on steam mode as well, and the group head releasing steam on occasions, which also make me worry in terms of the wiring, or the parts just need replacement. The PID works after hooking everything up. The boiler had been installed in such a way that it had pinched/nearly severed the upstream wire on the brew light. You could approach this two ways. PID temperature control kit for Gaggia Classic Pro 2018+, Classic & Home. 1: This kit fits the Gaggia Classic Pro (RI9380 120V or 240V, RI9480 240V) that was released in late 2018 and early 2019, Gaggia Classic & Home which has the traditional Gaggia aluminum boiler, including 14101, RI8161/40, and RI9303 models. 6 Reviews (6) $375.00. Auber Instruments PID Kit for Gaggia Classic See More by Auber Instruments 4.8 6 Reviews CA$285.00 Earn 855 Reward Points worth $8.55! Do you observe the same temperature ranges? PID Modification by Auber Instruments' Customer. Ive set the Sn value to pt for the PT100. Guys, there is mains voltage here. Some shops are quoting $80.00 for the PID enclosure + lid. Chris has done a great job on this write up and its easy to follow. From what you describe, it looks the power wires for your PID are possibly tapped in-line with the boiler power? P 53.1 I started with 103, and bumped it up to 105. I actually installed mine and then saw your thread, which is awesome to see other people using the same PID. Hi Chris, I appreciate your tutorials on the PID install. My only concern is the diagramm I downloaded from whole latte love shows different connections then what I have seen in my unit Ive followed these instructions and installed the mod using the REX-C100, SSR, K-type thermocouple and brass adapter linked in Chris excellent writeup (Thank you Chris). If the wiring was done correctly, the PID should power up when the Classic is turned on. I am glad this article helped. I agree the ability to know exactly where the steam cycle is at is a nice convenience. Shades. For more than half a century, Gaggia has been supplying both coffee bars and homes with innovative, state-of-the-art coffee machines. Check for wire that might have been too aggressively stripped, where some of the conductor might have also been cut away. Terrific write-up thank you for posting it! Some people have done this by replacing the water filler funnel and 3D printing a replacement cover. I am going into speculation mode here I wonder if your Gaggia came with the steam and brew thermostat positions reversed? The SSR is only rated for 5 amps. Perfect, came back here to ask this question! Hi Andrue. One bit of note and a request. Top Rated Seller Auber Instruments is one of eBay's most reputable sellers. The pump can be stopped at any time by pressing the ">" key a second time. robert kujawa 348 subscribers Subscribe 85K views 1 year ago In this video I'll install a PID unit on my Gaggia. I have few questions for you about this setup. When the steam switch is turned on, the on/off temperature of the heater is controlled to 1 degree (F or C) difference as compared with the original thermostat's >10C (or 20F) difference. PID Kit for older plastic body Gaggia Classic. under the name replacement PID kit parts with very low prices. Your Gaggia would be in steam mode by default, you would never have to switch on steam mode. If you really want these features, its probably time to think about upgrading your machine. Just leave the SSR disconnected, or dont install it at all. Does this happen even if you let the machine sit in steam mode and dont open the steam valve?. Select Your Mounting option. 2. 4: Links to replacement parts: sensor PT100M4; single-channel solid state relay (SSR): SRDA25, aluminum box: SBOXS. Shop for it now! I have a different/better single boiler PID machine I will use to pull shots. on orders over $49. Main Feature. . I deliberately avoided looking at the Mr Shades kits and instructions when I wrote this article, I dont want to steer people away from them. 2M cable not sure why that was the case & 10 installing a Gaggiuino mod Arduino FPGA. Five cents each to melt the Lego enclosure: https: //www.ebay.com.au/itm/224710871179 see what values my controller wire that have! 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