Note: A full length article about the 7mm WSM and 7mm Rem. Considering the production by Hornady of 6.5 GAP 4S cases, the next logical step appeared to be ammunition coming off the line in Grand Island, Nebraska. If you go with a hot 7mm, get one with a fairly heavy barrel contour. 7mm Rem Short Action Ultra Magnum Load Data 120 Grain 140 Grain 150 Grain 160 Grain 168 Grain 175 Grain 185 Grain PRIVACY USE ORDER PROCESSING SERVICE & RETURNS Copyright 2023 NOSLER INC. The 7 SAUM offers better performance than the 300 Win Mag in a package that is almost as small as the 6.5 Creedmoor. Thats fast enough to handle most 175-gr. We're doing break in on it tomorrow. They explain in part the enduring popularity of the 7mm Rem. ELD-Match zeroed for MPBR on a 6-inch target zone. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Clear winner. Mag., 270 Winchester, 30-06 Springfield, and 300 H&H Magnum looked all but washed up. But then none have put it all together quite like Hornadys new 7mm PRC (Precision Rifle Cartridge.) Neither caught on, but American shooters were certainly beginning to recognize the potential for 7mm cartridges. According to SAAMI specs, instrumental velocity of the 7mm PRC is 2,950 fps when driving a 180-grain bullet. But, were I young and tough and starting from scratch, I might be lured into the .28 Nosler. If its a hunting rifle does it really matter? For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Articles may contain affiliate links which enable us to share in the revenue of any purchases made. Amazing bc too for the weight. John Whiddons dies are the nicest Ive ever used. Definitely go 26" on the barrel. Brass 1 - 12 of 73 Products Sort By Position 220 Swift Premium Brass (50ct) $108.95 6.5mm PRC Bulk Unprepped Brass (100ct) Out of stock $135.49 6.5mm PRC Premium Brass (50ct) Out of stock $118.95 27 Nosler Premium Brass (25ct) I would go 7 LRM if it wasn't for the Hornady brass . Additionally you can tune your load so accuracy difference go out the window. landed with a splash big enough to drench every deer/elk cartridge in North America. The extra heat required to reach hyper speed eats away at barrel throats rather quickly. Dies, brass etc are way easier to find for the PRC. Handloaders can find .284" bullets (the diameter that all 7mm cartridges digest) as light as 100 grains, perfect for pasture rodents, coyotes, and even deer. https://westtexordnance.com/7mm-300-norma-improved/, https://www.longrangehunting.com/threads/28-nosler-195-berger-re33-testing.159270/, Desert Tech SRS A2 Covert FDE w/ conversions, Desert Tech SRS A1 FDE RH 6.5x47L - Parted Out. SAUM can be found on the Rifle Cartridge Page. Mag. $94.95 $79.95. Recreational and practical applications abound with these .22 caliber handguns. A bigger concern might be barrel heating and subsequent wandering. Thin barrels tend to distort slightly with heat, opening up groups. Ballistic twins. But to really appreciate this, lets run a trajectory chart out to some crazy ranges. Your results may vary. The most common comparison is 28 Nosler vs 300 Win Mag, because they're both popular in North America and are kissing cousins as far as bullet diameter goes. Great extraction and wide nodes with many powders. Mag., 7mm RUM, 28 Nosler,) you dont need a 7 PRC. The only advantage I'd see with the SAUM is using a short action. Copyright 2004, 2013 by Chuck Hawks. with either the Berger 215- or 230-grain Hybrid and push them at maximum pressures. Trustpilot. My hunting partner just bought a CA Ridgeline TI in 6.5PRC. I was tired of lugging the heavy, long, and heavy recoiling 30s around, but wanted more punch than my lighter 6.5CM. Almost through fire forming but ran some pressure ladders with fully formed brass with 180 Berger hybrids, H1000 looks like I'll be at a good max at 3000 fps and R26 3050 fps and I good life. $120.95. Some are claiming as little as 600-round barrel life for RUM, 1,000 rounds for .28 Nosler, 2,000 for Rem. ADG 338 Remington Ultra Mag Brass. The 28 Nosler has a muzzle energy of 3470 ft-lbs, and the 30 Nosler has muzzle energy at 3639 ft-lbs. Could run the sendero lite or a bartlein magnum sporter I bet Saum simply because its a 7 and you said elk. ADG 300 Rem Ultra Mag Brass. Reloading data published in the fifth edition of the Nosler Reloading Guide for the 7mm Rem. I have hunted with a 7mm Rem Mag and a 7mmSTW. Founded by Frank Galli in 2000, Snipers Hide has been offering informational videos, podcasts, and other support to its users in one location. Nosler Custom Reloading Brass 280 Remington Ackley Improved 40-Degree Nosler Custom Reloading Brass 7mm Remington Short Action Ultra Mag Box N N2TRKYS Well-Known Member Joined All the info in that thread made my decision for me. Im going to run a tikka action/stock trigger with spring upgrade with a 22in carbon barrel and a light weight scope. $ 87.00 - $ 145.00. These are some impressive numbers. I feel I could easily shoot 180s at the same speed, and the 190s close to it. Moose by the dozens have fallen to the 7mm Rem. You could beat it by loading that same bullet in the 28 Nosler, but youre still facing the barrel burn out issue. It will never be as popular as a 6.5PRC or 28nosler, but it has a purpose. $81.95. Indeed, over the years my 7mms have handled this stuff. The LRM feeds perfectly, much better than the SAUM. I would go 7 LRM if it wasn't for the Hornady brass . Like I said, I'm biased for the 7RM. ADG 30 Nosler Brass. I didnt have any problems finding reloading supplies. This rings home with me. The rim of the RUM was already rebated to fit a .534-inch bolt face. These drawings will be incorporated during the next revision of the relevant SAAMI Standard. ADG Brass. 280AI vs 7 SAUM: two peas in a pod. Another vote for 7 rem mag. Hey guys, so Ive kind of decided to give one of these a try in my Desert Tech SRS. Fr pske salg: Opptil 50 % rabatt + Gratis frakt over 499 kr . The completed case holds 90 grains of water with our 175-grain boattail spire point bullet seated. ADG 28 Nosler. Mag. #7mm #longrangeshooting #extremelongrange Minuteman. Although, the 28 Nosler is an awesome cartridge. I dont reload but i see this statement a lot. Newer calibers tend to fade quickly these days. The Nosler loads were developed in Remington cases with Remington primers, and chronographed in a 24 inch barrel. Rich is a good guy to talk to on the phone we bsd a bit the other day. Nosler and Hornady load both 7mm Remington Magnum and .280 Ackley ammunition; looking at their data you'll see a difference of 90 to 100 fps between the two, with the belted 7mm Magnum giving the higher velocities (with a 162-grain Hornady ELD-X, the 7mm Mag. Categories With a 160 grain bullet the Remington figures are 2960 fps and 3112 ft. lbs. These bullets are super tempting to run at 3200+. Mag. I have one on a 26" proof barrel. Buy Now. And more recoil. gavevare til innvarming, bryllup, bursdager og alle anledninger. I love 7mm, just wish it would modernize a bit. Hper du kan nyte shoppingen din her! I'm going 7-300prc because it'll out pace a 7mag by 100-150fps with all bullet weights at much more manage pressures. One of the most prominent differences between the two is that the 28 Nosler fires a bullet diameter of 7mm or 0.284" while the 300 PRC fires the . bullet have what it takes for hunting anything short of dangerous game. Nothing to call home about, but its solid for any North American game to 7 or 800 yards based on about any standard metric. I made the same decision not long ago and went 7mm RM, although barrel life was a consideration for me, which it probably wouldn't be on a strictly hunting rig. . 7mm RemMag. Recoil of a 9# Rem. Full Member. The 7mm Weatherby has the same recoil as a .300 Winchester Magnum, and many shooters can't come to grips with it. He's loading the 195's to something like 3.730" COAL, well past SAAMI specs. As you might guess, there isnt much trajectory/performance difference between the RUM and the Nosler. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Fill this with 88 grains of slow burning Reloder 33 powder and, according to the Nosler Reloading Guide 8, you should get 3,211 fps from a 26-inch barrel. Ron Spomer Mag. The 7mm SAUM is an ideal cartridge for long-range competition and long-range hunting. In older reloading books for the 7 rum is its hauling a$$ compared current data. As mentioned above, one of the nice things about the 7RM is factory ammo is plentiful and fairly inexpensive. My 28 will not blow the door of the 7 MAX which is why I did not rechamber a 28, I want more accurate load life and no chasing lands around for only a little gain on the very end of trajectory. They sharpened the shoulder angle. More than 1,900 ft-lbs of energy at 700 yards. I'm worried bout the need of a 26" barrel for the Nosler, and hoping to get away with a 24" since I'm trying to run an Ultra 7 with it. 180-gr. Unless you are shooting the 180's at long range, the 7 Rem is enough gun. Id be set for all North American game plus African plains game right up to 1,800-pound eland. If you reload ,other than initial brass price, the cost is nearly identical. The parent cartridge is a shortened 7mm Remington Ultra Mag. M700 shooting 180-gr. The U.S.A. hasnt fully adopted the metric system, but our shooters and hunters have. Foot of the Big Belt Mountains near Townsend MT. If youre going to tackle an elk or mule deer with a 180-grain bullet at around 2,900 fps, the 7mm version in that bullet weight will shoot flatter, drift less, and put more energy on target than the .308 version. Said barrels will also be throated long enough for seating such bullets above the powder reservoir. Lets compare three cartridges that do that; the old 7mm Rem. I wish there was more 7SAUM options, I feel there's a gap in the market. Both were introduced in 2001. With 165gr bullets the 300 has a fair amount of recoil with a 150gr it feels more like a 30/06. I went 7SAUM. 28 Nosler brass can be a pain to find, same goes for the ammo. Three quid k shots can overheat a thin barrel and turn a 1 MOA rifle into a 2 MOA. Published Nov 25, 2019 7:53 PM EST. Another vote for 280ai if building a light weight hunt rig all the horsepower needed close to 7rm but standard action with room for an extra round. Like most of our early magnums, this is based on the belted .375 H&H Magnum case. RDF, or Bergers 190-gr. It may not display this or other websites correctly. ADG 6.5 SAUM Brass. Metallic Reloading Rifle Brass Rifle Brass Rifle brass is made for almost every conceivable cartridge, from 223 brass and 308 brass to older offerings like 30-40 Krag brass and even one of the newest, 6.5 Creedmoor brass. Sign up with your email address to receive news and updates. Going super light though might make the 280 ai another good choice. Here are some specifications of interest to those reloading the 7mm WSM cartridge: bullet diameter .284", maximum COL 2.860", maximum case length 2.100". Here are some specifications of interest to those reloading the 7mm SAUM cartridge: bullet diameter .284", maximum COL 2.825", maximum case length 2.035". I have a 28 nosler, and love it, but I wanted the extra 200 FPS from hand . SAUM shows that 56.0 grains of IMR 4350 powder will drive their 140 grain bullets to a MV of 2943 fps, and 60.0 grains of IMR 4350 is good for a MV of 3146 fps. 28 nosler is a great case, barrel burner, but if you're looking for say 3000fps w/ 195 at lower pressure, use H1000 or Retumbo, adg/gunwerks brass, and the brass will last you forever, take care the barrel and it may go 1000 rounds. Nosler brass also undergoes the rigorous quality control that premium Nosler bullets have experienced for over 60 years. 7rm for me. Great performance, easy to neck a case down and a simple bushing change gets you great dies. Qty: Add to cart. In the past, running 284 Win (reaching back to Raton, 2013), I would have said that (for me at least) a rechamber would be in order for a straight 284 around the 2000 round mark. Adding two inches of barrel to the 24 inches of our 7mm Rem. Given the same basic form and muzzle velocity (MV), a 180-grain, .284 bullet will fly flatter, drift less, and retain more energy downrange than a 180-grain .308 bullet . Either way a shorter fat case will be better With a shorter barrel. 8.7 twist 5R and 180 JLKs couldnt consistently make it to 100 past 3Kfps. Mag., the 264 Win. 195s topped out @ 2950 w/ N570 using a drop tube to fit powder, that primer pocket was loose after. ABLR in the 28 Nosler. Again, both seen like great options but I want this to be a hunting rig, as I've got a rifle for shooting steel. Trustpilot. I already have a few 264 caliber rifles. To comply with the new e-Privacy directive, we need to ask for your consent to set the cookies. Id suggest a similar plan. You can drive 10 mph and get thousands and thousands more miles out of your tires, but wouldnt you rather drive highway speed? However I am still using H4831, and I bet with VV N 570 or RL26 I could pass those speeds easily. Elk, moose, kudu and similar large . Furthest down, around the primer pocket, the brass should be firm. The 7mm PRC in center is the same overall length as the 7mm Rem Mag and achieves the same muzzle velocities, but does so in a fatter case with no belt. Mag., the new .28 Nosler, and the over-the-top 7mm RUMa shoot-off to find the best, By without laser assistance. Just to add another fly in the ointment, but another 7mm to consider, is the 7mm Blaser Mag. for my brand of hunting. SAUM shows that 56.0 grains of IMR 4350 powder will drive their 140 grain bullets to a MV of 2943 fps, and 60.0 grains of IMR 4350 is good for a MV of 3146 fps. Creedmoor Sports $ 86.95 . Just cant decide what billets and powder to run. I also see the counter that belted cases are reloaded just like non belted and it is a non issue. If you're only going to be shooting 160's, I think the regular 7 Rem Mag would definitely be a more economical choice. Its likely to be as popular in the 21st century as the Rem Mag was in the 20th. This calls for a light rifle. The 175/180 class Bullets sneaking along (1/4 MOA) at 2950-ish give or take, certainly not to par with the newer selections. Jan 1, 2018 2,001 4,006 51 Muscle Shoals, Alabama. I have both the 300 and 7mm SAUM, the 300 is on a model 7 action and the 7mm a standard 700SA. But if you want to win long range target competitions, the 7 PRC is your best bet. As for the 7 Rem Mag vs. the 7 PRC, the trajectory data indicates there is no appreciable difference out to 400 yards and not a heck of a lot more at 500 yards, so most hunters wont realize a major advantage with the PRC version. I like the 6.5 PRC because I think ammo/brass will have more staying power where the 7mm SAUM is all but obsolete (don't stone me for that). Creedmoor Sports $ 119.95 . More significant are the chamber dimensions, which are tighter than those of most traditional, 20th century hunting cartridges. Saw some shiney spots, no bolt lift but did open the pocket a little to the point of a few firings at 3120 fps. Pretty sure the can thing is a complete game changer on optimal barrel length. It slightly exceeds the ballistic performance of the short-action 7mm SAUM on the right. Therefore recoil is not a problem with bullets of 140-150grs. Mag. Founded by Frank Galli in 2000, Snipers Hide has been offering informational videos, podcasts, and other support to its users in one location. 7mm PRC vs 28 Nosler The 28 Nosler shoots at faster muzzle velocities, but is an overbore cartridge that requires a very long chamber, with the Hornady hype behind the 7mm PRC, brass and ammo should be much more readily available soon enough. Improving 7mm Rem. and if you cant draw any tags, youd got a target rifle to tide you over. Buy Now. Mag., the new .28 Nosler, and the over-the-top 7mm RUM. Most hunters who resist target practice can get a lifetime of good accuracy out of these 7mms. Another indicates 74-grains of Hodgdon 870 will churn up 2,954 fps. Snipers Hide is a community of Snipers of all kinds, focusing on long range shooting, accuracy, and ballistics. But you pay the price in recoil and that 26-inch barrel. and instead recommends the 30-28 nosler, 300 norma and improved, and 300 PRC stating that each has 75% less throat erosion than the 28 nosler and with essentially identical ballistics. Winchester claims a muzzle velocity (MV) of 3,225 fps with a 140 grain bullet for their 7mm WSM cartridge; the claimed muzzle energy (ME) is 3,233 ft. lbs. The Hodgdon technicians used Winchester cases and primers to develop their loads, and they were chronographed in a 24 inch barrel. I did shoot a black bear years ago with a 140gr Sierra, ugly. These claims are valid if the short magnum cartridges are fired in 24 inch barrels, the same length as the barrels of most 7mm Rem. Will the 156 take down an elk, sure but I would prefer to have a .284 caliber in a biased opinion. But if your wanting the long action anyway, I'd go with the 280ai. More obscure were the 7mm Gibbs and the Norma-loaded 7x61mm Sharpe & Hart in the early 1950s. Here, the hardness is nearly twice that of around the neck. Long action lone peak. Now lets check out the 7mm RUM. LRHTB. Since then weve met eight or ten other 7mms, but none has knocked the old 7 Rem Mag from its perch. All of the figures from both companies were developed in 24 inch test barrels. Cartridge: 7 RUM. With a 160 grain bullet the Winchester figures are 2990 fps and 3176 ft. lbs. 6.5 PRC or .28 Nosler. You are using an out of date browser. Qty: Add to cart . Instead they seem to be shooting for the ideal balance among MV, tolerable recoil, wind deflection, and precision accuracy. from all the adds for the nosler 28, they have the data on the 7 rum dumber down to make them look better. Im sure Remington engineers started with the .300 H&H case, but it was itself a modification of the .375, so same difference. A barrel shot out for target competition might remain more than accurate enough for big game hunting. Arbeidstid: 08.00-16.00mandag til fredagVi vil svare deg innen 48-72 timer. load hitting 2,970 fps and a 28 Nosler hitting 3211fps with the same bullet. Clearly the 7mm Rem. It went on to prove itself as a grand all-round big game cartridge, becoming the most popular, most recognized 7mm magnum around the world. ADG 7mm Rem Ultra Mag Brass. Thanks. bullets far, far downrange with minimal wind deflection and maximal accuracy. John makes custom dies not just what is listed. ELD-Match ammo I shot at FTW was rated 2,975 fps on the box. The shot prior a half grain less powder had minimal pressure signs. Recoil with a brake should be not bad at all even with the light rifle. The additional reach is tempting, but Id pay the price with a 26-inch, fairly heavy barrel. Buy Now. Clearly Hornady wasnt trying to break any speed records with the 7 PRC. I am very pleased I am shooting retumbo using adg brass which is excellent brass highly recommend, shooting 165 Gamechanger at 3075, 180 Berger right at 3000. Part of this is due to the .40 inches of freeborn Remington builds into its 7mm RUMs to minimize chamber pressures on ignition. Check out the 10 mph right-angle wind deflection at 400 yards: just 7.82 inches. Just FYI before going 7-330NM, check out Long Range Hunting, there is a real long thread on there about the 28 Nosler with the 195 Bergers, just google it. | When making your choice, don't factor in component or ammo availability. You go long. That's what I would do unless you have to have something much faster. With a 28" I got 2950~2975 with a 195 and 3150 with a 180. As the .30-06 Springfield has a .473 case head and uses the .470 +/- bolt face, any cartridges list on the above two bolt face diameter and action length database charts above, that also use the .470 +/- bolt face, and have a COAL of 3.34 or shorter, will work with .30-06 actions. If you dont own a 7mm of any kind and want one strictly for hunting, you might as well get the PRC version. Will be running as a long action so no worries about magazine issues. Bullet made it in about 3" an blew a big hole in it. Either is good. Im in the market to start a new build. $120.95. Its designed to send long, sleek, high B.C. Retained mass helps maintain momentum. The difference might surprise you. Im shooting a 7 stw 1 in 8 twist ( ballistic twin to 28 nosler ) 190's at 3005 fps, and the 195's at 2985 fps both with under .5 moa accuracy. For you guys that have had both with do you prefer. You say it's long action. A .208 AI would be about the same as the .284 Win loaded right. So far on order, The Sherman requires case prep and fire forming which is rounds off of your barrel life unless you buy a hydroforming die $$$$$, Caliber = internal diameter of a barrel bore, outside diameter of a bullet. What was your 28 Nosler load with 180s at 3080? Now waiting on ADG to do another run of 7 SAUM brass. I'd opt for the 7RM. Just 5 inches of drop at 400 yards and 6.8 inches of wind deflection. This just-released (October 26, 2022) cartridge has the potential to become the 7mm Remington Magnum of the 21st century. They straightened the sidewalls. Reactions: Zeroit. Versitile and with the right twist rate can really launch some High BC pills out there. We use cookies to make your experience better. Nosler AccuBond Long Range. Now I am waffling between the 6.5x284 Norma and the 300 PRC. Both cartridges were designed to work through short action rifles. yea Im leaning more towards the 28 just cause I dont really want to fire form, I know its not the end of the world but just one more step. Use a 1:8 twist and the 7RM will be no slouch. Reloading data published in the fifth edition of the Nosler Reloading Guide for the 7mm Rem. Mag. Howdy. And it will likely penetrate farther because more of its mass rides in the long shank behind its nose. burning 61 grains Reloder 22, 28 Nosler, 3,200 fps from 26 bl., 88-grs. at the muzzle. Which one would you choose and why? Hodgdon reloading data for the 7mm WSM shows that the 140 grain Nosler Partition spitzer bullet can be driven to a MV of 2979 fps in front of 58.0 grains of H4350 powder. It's an extraordinary caliber that has proven itself for decades upon decades, and just in the last few years has hit new strides thanks to the SAAMI standardization of the caliber, because of it's time-tested popularity. Mag. To comply with the new e-Privacy directive, we need to ask for your consent to set the cookies. High-velocity cartridges are high velocity for a reason. You are using an out of date browser. Ryan Pierce is a gunsmith, Piercison Rifles, and he is the first person I saw that was playing with the extra freebore. 7RM!! JavaScript is disabled. Full-magnum action long. Choices have changed since I made the decision to go with a 7 WSM 10-15 years ago. Reloading the 28 is also not inexpensive. I tested the 7 STW, 7 RUM, 7 Rem mag, 7-300 win mag and even a 7 Lapua. I like off the shelf ammo and its 7 mag, 28 Nosler, 7mm-08 and the 280. The .28 Nosler of 2015 was their solution. We have killed over a half dozen deer over 850 yards with the 195 berger so i know it performs well on game (never lost a deer with the 195 even with one having poor shot placement). $89.95. loads beautifully, delivering them sub-MOA out to 1,500 yards, then a mile just to say I did it. $120.95. Using new brass, like Lapua brass, when reloading allows you complete control over the finished cartridge. Despite all this powder volume, reloading guides all indicate the 7mm RUM tops out at around 3,150 fps with a 26-inch barrel, slightly slower than the .28 Nosler. SAUM can be found on the . And with RL33 hes getting 3140 fps (pretty easily), using Retumbo (for it's temp stability) drops it about 75 fps. The 180 Berger VLD was my choice for terminal performance. Sounds like from above that ADG is making 7 MAX brass, which is what Rich told me last year would be happening. Had same dilemma, went with 7RM because even during the great Obama ammo shortage you could always find 7RM ammo. The 28 Nosler is in the 7mm Rifle Ammo family. #1 Postby Marty Sun Aug 05, 2018 8:38 am. Most people are getting sub half moa. It's no surprise then that the 7mm Weatherby held the title "World's Fastest 7mm" until the 28 Nosler appeared. Engineers made three modifications that ensured popularity: they shortened the case to fit standard-length actions. This is not a rifle you want to weave through dog-hair timber. There are now at least 14 7mm cartridges being manufactured in the U.S. with several wildcats waiting in the wings. We ain't raisen no yuppy girls! You must log in or register to reply here. Consider that already own a 270 Win with a 22" barrel. Lots of hiking, backpacking, climbing, shooting to 450 yards, maybe 500 yards. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Its a criterion 26 barrel. 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