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Catholic nuns, as decreed by Pope Francis, are not allowed to use smartphones or social media. July 2018 Physical violence was allowed and was encouraged by the frustrated Nuns in all the Institutions in order to get the upper hand - literally and brutally - by striking blows with hands, feet, sticks, chains, metal objects or whatever else came to hand. . The sexual assault was to be the first of many suffered by William at the hands of his supposed care-givers. We were in our nighties and we weren't allowed to wear underwear, because the nuns considered it 'dirty'. I think that's the way many of them were trained, in a very authoritarian church. An inquiry last year into Ireland's Magdalene laundries, where for decades thousands of women were forced to work by nuns, found no evidence that workers were abused. The terror so enthusiastically applied by the Religious Nuns who ran the Magdalene Laundries was very real for the Survivors of such Institutions. "Most of the nuns were Irish and though they were trained to be nuns they were not trained to look after kids, and that is where a lot of the problems were. Ireland's attitude to the Catholic Church has made it possible for people to "literally demonise" nuns and completely obscure the good work they have done over the years. Flagrant and cruel. Every morning he had to wash and dress his little brother Thomas, who had brittle bone disease and was unable to walk. Vera lived at the home with her two sisters from the age of six months until she was 17 years old. Thankfully, those methods have changed, and nuns are now taught with more compassion. September 2019 Why are Nuns so mean? Sadly, those abusive women were sadists who should have been imprisoned themselves and also hospitalized. The tears, the upset of my brothers and sisters, the thought of my father being upset and being lonely was all too much for me, he recalls. Philomenas mother, who died at 74, kept in touch with all her children throughout their times at the schools and enjoyed a good relationship with them as adults. In May 1983, 12-year-old Thomas was taken to Lourdes, by the local charity the Order of Malta, who frequently arranged trips for disabled children. The first reason is that they have the power to be cruel. My grandmother, aunts, uncles, great aunts and uncles cousins ect ect, were mostly raised in the Cotholic Missions on different Indian Reservations. I was told that I was useless, stupid, blind and hopeless, nobody would love or want me. But the report of the Commission of Investigation into Mother and Baby Homes in Ireland published last week after five years of work was worse . I was more in shock that the bitch assaulted me. 50. 4-And I heard another voice out of Heaven say: "Get out of her, my people, if you do not want to share with her in her sins, and if you do not want to receive part of her plagues." After all, slavery played a crucial role in the development and ongoing operation of the Cults economy. Violence was frequently employed and encouraged with the most common forms being verbal abuse, slaps, blows, and kicks. It has enriched the Irish Catholic Church to the extent that, even to this day, it is the wealthiest organisation in Ireland. August 2018 This passivity of refusing to see, hear or not acting to intervene really amounted to silent approval. Thus, nuns act out their cruelty towards others. Sometimes the really obvious take on history turns out to be the right one. May 2022 I became agnostic when I learned about the Crusades. Across thousands of miles, across decades, the abuse took eerily similar forms: People who grew up in orphanages said they were made to kneel or stand for hours, sometimes with their arms straight out, sometimes holding their boots or some other item. The investigators established the chambers were originally used to treat sewage. 5 Top The Silver Thong Member 33.4k What is it that makes these Nuns so down right nasty mean? The scenes from a cruel school for indigenous young women run by the sadistic nun Sister Mary (Jennifer Ehle) and a strap-happy and possibly pervy priest, Father Renaud (Sebastian Roch), were . July 2020 But the hearings were criticised as being harsh on the victims and William is angry that the survivors were asked to sign a non-disclosure agreement in return for the money they were offered. Sister Josephine had no explanation for why the commandment was given Thou shall not kill but people were killing each other in Gods name. That was when her main tormentor at the Nazareth House in Middlesbrough, Sister Laurence, died. . So, its no wonder nuns can be so cruel. Vicious evil people.. "You were thrashed about the feet, head and hands, you had your hair pulled and your head bounced off the walls. The nuns would enter a convent in their teens and would be told nothing about sex or re Continue Reading 18 2 Peter Kisner "They were collecting nuns and would go door-to-door for donations - we described them as beggars - and they would often visit the house of my relatives and ask for contributions. Many of the initial applications were turned down and, in response, William set up the Residential Institution Survivor Network (RISN), which has now helped over 200 people with appeals. Although nuns acting mean is mostly history, the stigma remains in many peoples minds. March 2020 It can also lead to nuns acting out in ways that are considered cruel. My mom told me that they had no life, could not leave the convent, no TV, no newspapers, so I think it was simple burn out, no way to get away from us brats. Nuns can be cruel for a variety of reasons. My time with these Nuns was horrendous. When America Despised the Irish: The 19th Century's Refugee Crisis Forced from their homeland because of famine and political upheaval, the Irish endured vehement discrimination before making. We were beaten with big sticks - the bigger the better. January 2020 The daily torturing and beating of the slave women and children enabled the cruelest of the Nuns to assert their place in the Magdalene Laundries and other Institutions. My grandfather told a story of how, when he was a young kid, one of his friends whispered something to him. This service is provided on News Group Newspapers' Limited's Standard Terms and Conditions in accordance with our Privacy & Cookie Policy. A helper, a big 20-year-old girl, dragged me to the washroom. A nun all of a sudden picked the kid up, carried him to the door, then slammed the door into his head. He was told that the remains would be brought back to Moate for mass and the following day to his hometown of Daingean, Co. Offaly. You have to ask why are some women cruel because the reality is some women are cruel. There are times when its hot outside, and the last thing you want to do is dress in heavy clothing. To learn more, you can also read our posts on why 911 operators are so rude, why judges are so rude, and why cops are so rude. Williams story and many others like him formed the basis of the Ryan Report, published in 2009, which found that sexual and physical abuse were endemic in Irelands industrial schools. But thats human nature. Well, I don't think that humans are meant to live without any intimacy; physical or emotional. As the result of a rape and beating by a Nun, I spent two years in a coma in hospital hiding from my mangled mind and body. Terrified, I remember holding out my hand thinking an adult would take it. They justified their abuse of power by the cause their signed up to. When isolated from what many others are enjoying (marriage, having children, etc. November 2019 "Twelve people . But, back in the day, this is how nuns were taught, and its no wonder they turned out to be so cruel. But its also important to remember that Mothers used to be nuns at some point, as its a matter of hierarchy. Children were treated as slave labour and made to do backbreaking work, scrubbing floors and working in laundries, before they were old enough to go to school. Beatings were a daily occurrence. By Philip Pullella. "The nuns never believed I was deaf. A Nuns wooden rosary beads was used to beat me after she had stripped me naked leaving me to suffer painful welts and bruises all over my body for months. My sister was born and adopted in the US and her birth mom reported being treated badly by the Nuns at the place where she went while pregnant. The Nuns enjoyed certain privileges both in Irish society as a whole and in their palatial Convents where the daily tasks of cooking, cleaning, washing-up, ironing etc, were all performed by their slaves. . Its no wonder nuns can be so cruel. I remember being made to sit in a cold bath. Some of these women and girls from middle-class backgrounds and with no professional training, were transformed into some of the most vicious Nuns running various Religious Institutions in Ireland. The first stage of this cruelty was the men who walked away and left the women to be outcasts of society. It was a dreadful experience and I will never forget it. It is also true that in the Free State times families could have taken their daughters home at any stageWe had a Constitution which obliges due process before incarceration. Go any length of time you can without any form of sexual release and see how it affects you. And of course the whole story fits wonderfully into the larger stories of Irish nuns as heartless and cruel, which many undoubtedly were. The atmosphere was one of sheer terror. The scathing report, by Professor Bruce Grundy of Queensland University, told of how one girl, Helen Carter, had her legs burnt with a red-hot poker, to exorcise the Devil, while another child almost lost her legs which became infected after a nun pulled out her ingrowing toenails with pliers. By Sue Lloyd Roberts. Claims of abuse have been made about homes run by the order in places including Newcastle upon Tyne, Plymouth, Swansea, Manchester and Sunderland. No doubt there were a few gentler Nuns, but they remained passively silent as they watched the violent Nuns run amok, behaving in a frenzied, out-of-control and unrestrained manner. Catholic religious sisters, commonly (and inaccurately) called "nuns", are a declining part of American life. So if you see a mean nun, remember that shes probably going through a lot. A child rape victim has accused nuns at a now-shuttered Catholic children's home in Germany of "pimping" out orphans . In the 1930s and 1940s, a conservative revolution ushered in an era in Quebec now known as " The Great Darkness .". Imagine trying to be perfect all the time. To hide injuries from visitors, children were shut into a "black hole" without bedding, ventilation or light. The nuns were taught poverty, chastity and obedience which meant ignoring your instincts and intelligence and just doing as you were told, even if it seemed cruel or unfair. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Less Than Human: Why We Demean, Enslave, and Exterminate Others By David Livingstone Smith Hardcover, 336 pages St. Martin's Press List price: $24.99 Read An Excerpt When the Nazis described Jews. There was church every day of the week. 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