Lets analyze how you got to a denial and what can be done to appeal the denial. If you have any concerns about your next FAA flight physical. My new AME, (old one finally retired,) is a pilot, as is his wife, the office manager and head nurse. In other words, bigger name on the other line. Why would you need to report that? HIPPA Law prevents them from looking at your medical history without your consent. no? N.C., one does not have the right to lie to the feds investigating an illegal act. There is no rule to disclose insulin dependence for a drivers license and a drivers license, not a medical certificate, is all that is required to fly as a sport pilot. But WHILE it is a problem for the flier, not after it is treated. The FAA is hopelessly stuck in the stone age, especially in the Aeromedical division. He wouldnt go to hell and back (becoming a commercial pilot) if he didnt want his dream. Lie, definitely not. Id rather be flying but I dont require the FAAs approval for my activities. Telling the truth in MedXPress is clearly the right thing to do, but that is not what this article is about. Yes, all my discussion was only applicable to private, recreational pilots, not airline or large freight liner pilots. Assuming you appropriately responded to one of these three questions, your application was likely deferred and the FAA sent you a letter, requesting medical records. Reply. Probably, we certainly arent as full of ourselves as I was when I was a young man. Actually, in some years there are 0 attributed to sudden incapacitation, such as heart attack or stroke. You actually do have a point and I think the same thing sometimes if people want to be private pilots they shouldnt even have to carry a third class medical just their drivers license. Last summer I went to get my 3rd class med. And, apparently, if and applicant for a first medical certificate with student certificate has had epilepsy, he/she can be deferred even if seizure-free for more than 10 years. Period. Medical certificates are designated as first-class, second-class, or third-class. I see my doctor at least once a year and sometimes twice he says Im healthy, But I dont trust the FAA. Most people fall into the trap thinking that one DUI will prevent them from getting their medical, or they fear it will make it difficult to get. How about an 83 year-old on medication for type II diabetes, depression, and senility taking medication for all 3 problems? As one previous poster mentioned, why not let the AME make more of the calls, especially for class 3? 2022 MedMG - All Rights Reserved As a result, I had to take an EKG. In short, the FAA doesnt check medical records unless they have a reason to i.e. I really want to fly but Im not sure my passion, not to mention my wallet, will be enough to get me through this process. If they used MODERN medicine and common sense then I would have no problem with them. I think its a very poor decision to falsify your medical. From the details they ask about, you would think you were applying to be an astronaut. We have to be honest with ourselves. My guess is this would have been confirmed by and EEG. SOO going by the statistic that YOU pointed outof very few incidents and the comments that have been made that alot of piolts tell little white lies to an AME to keep their medical . Have tried the polite calling routine, found they will lie to you, one time the lady told me my SI was approved & mailed 2 days prior, when I finally got it 3 weeks later the post mark date proved they had lied. So, the medical certification process has greatly reduced my joy. How about the person that might have some minor anxiety issues? Bungee jumping. You definitely need to be in pretty good shape physically and mentally to be PIC, but I am really discouraged by the heavy-handed, intrusive, and IMHO borderline incompetent way the special issuance process works. This is very true if you were to tell them everything that has happened to you in the past medical histories etc. Im another one that was originally honest and regrets it. Holy hell! Military veterans should also be aware that the FAA now routinely cross-references your VA disability rating when determining your eligibility for a medical certificate. hej Jim, you couldnt describe better the current situation: from Aryan superman to weelchair pilot. He as a jet driver and as the sole pilot that might have been a problem during the flight he was scheduled for the next day. The FAA makes it clear what counts as a disqualifying condition. So how many depressed pilots (especially those who do it for a living) are flying? I mean no offense, but other adults telling another adult whether or not to disclose something on a medical just doesn't seem right. One DUI is not disqualifying. If you do or don't disclose, that's your business. That is why the FAA doesnt sanction Mr. Diabetes as Dickie would like. The med examination wasnt any different from the third class but the vision requirements are different. I was better off lying. Good guy, good doc, been at it a long time, Im healthy and got my 3rd class. If anyone cares to share their thoughts or any advice I would appreciate hearing from you. Does the FAA really pull your medical permanently? Dont take it personally, those are just the facts on the ground. So please just be honest you they are gonna find out about one day or another just like the case out in California back in 2005 for pilots lying about question 18y Medical disability benefits and many of them were in legal trouble. Consider the following tabulations on the number of deaths per year in various activities: Motorcycle deaths 4500 Signed, RN/PPSEL/IFR. A separate authorization request is required for each record released to any third party (physician, insurance company, employer, etc.). I used to go up about twice a week; now I havent flown since August. 5 years until age 40, then 4 years until age 45, then 3 years until age 50, then 2 years. It may be that some of you folks are not involved as subcontractors to the Airframe manufacturers. However, the overriding principle here is that if you intentionally falsify your medical and are discovered, then you are done permanently. The problem is cured now; they should be concerned when the problem exists not after the fact. However, if you do get caught, at best you will lose your license. At a minimum, the liar can lose flight provileges for good. I took medication for years, before I decided I didn't like and chose to stop taking meds (with my parents). Auto accident deaths 30,000. No mercy from the FAA and I was not even allowed to go to a hearing I just got the notice of revocation one day and that was it. My name is not Gustavo either. Since I asked to have myself tested for apnea, and found it was a problem, and now use a Constant Positive Air Pressure (CPAP) machine, FAA dogs me annually. If you are stupid and want to wait months for a medical waiver. He then went on to work for the leading aviation magazines, including as editor of both AOPA Pilot and Flying. Make a copy of the original and keep that in a safe place. Politicians create government agencies empowered to rule by edict. In the FAA world view you are not telling the truth. It can also ensure you keep flying for years to come. The real problem was that I also am prescribed anti-diarrhea medication and I take it as needed. I was an investigator for the CIA from 2001-2006 and armed security for CIA facilities for 4 years after that. I was even showing a bit of talent for it and progressing very nicely towards my private pilot certificate. Its sad. The additional costs associated with FAA medicals will reduce flying time for many of us there goes the proficiencey issue again. I look at the FAA as the enemy trying to take my life away. Ill continue to go by the book until such time as the rules change, or I wish to no longer fly. Did you answer Yes on the question and get you special issue? They will also review how your current application compares to the ones you have submitted in the past and your driving record. Thank you for the post. Ones health does not distinguish between ones ability to pilot a 2 seater weighing 1320 lbs and a 4 seat airplane weighing 3500 lbs. Im OK now, sleep with a CPAP machine. If I wanted to continue learning to fly I had to pay to visit a nomiated CAA doctor. My driving record is perfect, but I have been wondering if the FAA will reject my certificate because of an assault charge that happened five years ago back when I was in highschool. He went on to training pilots via simulators. But, to the uninformed, it has an appearance of diligence. A medical exam is required for a Commercial Driver License and for working on a commercial boat carrying passengers. Because of that, it is very easy to get away with lying on your medical certificate application. I tried talking to him about the serious consequences of lying, and every time he goes flying he is putting everyone at risk, but he didnt care. Its not lying its letting them find out, which would probably never happen unless something came out about it. This is just as important an issue as the proverbial get homeitis.. The FAA medical certification process has at times made me feel that I was in actual hell. So why are private pilots singled out for this rediculous harrassment ? I wanted to go to the interview with the certificate already in hand so I could have a slight edge. FAX your completed Request for Airman Medical Records Form to (405) 954-9326. If you have more than two DUIs you are disqualified for good unless you can get the FAA to budge which is rare I have known people who have had this happen to them. Ultimately, a yes response to 18m. Needless to say, I have never taken a $100 Hamburger flight. Most major airlines are in negotiations at this time, and many are contentious. How does the FAA find out what medications you are on? in detail and conduct a physical exam. The SIC will pull the body out of HIS brand new seat. I am 64 years old. Oh yeah did I mention that I live in an isolated community and that the next mediocre doc is a good four hour drive away? There shouldnt be different standards. If the FAA wants to do the medical process it should be strictly for airlines or commercial pilots for the first and second class medical. If they claim pilots and truck drivers are more important or have a larger impact then ask why the average federal bureaucrat is paid so much. Fortunately with the airlines, there is always a second pilot capable of flying the plane. For example, what if one is tired or snores. Gordon, https://www.oig.dot.gov/sites/default/files/SAFE_PILOT_Testimony_july17.pdf. What Are the Chances of Getting Caught Lying on an FAA Medical? In certain circumstances, I wouldnt think twice about lying on the medical form, quite frankly. We can never win with you, only lose. They came within 2 weeks of revoking my medical. Why do we have a federal bureaucracy policing such a low number of casualties? People are who they are. 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